2005 DA Standings

chule

BRONZE
Great win for Surf , no excuses Lafc ,it means nothing not having 3 playersdo to YNT for them , all they do is recrut the best players around , Take ur lost !!
 
Great win for Surf , no excuses Lafc ,it means nothing not having 3 playersdo to YNT for them , all they do is recrut the best players around , Take ur lost !!
I agree with you partially. LAFC has enough players to make two solid teams, no excuse for 3 absents, no way.
Yes, good win for Surf. But, Surf really does not play soccer. they just play 100% looking for their forwards and now with Miles back, well the long ball style gets stronger.
It will be nice by Kante to make an analysis and eventually a report of how many times Surf plays off the back vs times just kicking all balls over the head forward. one thing is winning the score, another very different is wining the game.
 
Great game for SD Surf. Not sure about the long ball comments. Surf pressured defensively as a whole, and played a very tight game. LAFC (playing out the back) were caught swinging the ball back and forth several times with nowhere to go. Props to LAFC though they always bring a good competitive game and players always play with passion.
 
Great game for SD Surf. Not sure about the long ball comments. Surf pressured defensively as a whole, and played a very tight game. LAFC (playing out the back) were caught swinging the ball back and forth several times with nowhere to go. Props to LAFC though they always bring a good competitive game and players always play with passion.
Watch Liverpool play. Do they play out of the back all day? Hell no. They press and play direct to their fast forwards. Would anybody call that not playing soccer? I get why possession is taught, but if the best way to win a game is to play direct then hell yeah, play that way.
 

Husky13

SILVER
But, Surf really does not play soccer. they just play 100% looking for their forwards and now with Miles back, well the long ball style gets stronger.
Last year, Surf played the best possession soccer of anyone in the country that I had seen. They were patient, worked the ball around for the higher percentage shot, lots of communication, always looking for the numbers advantage. Sure, they scored some goals with breakaways from midfield, but I thought of them as the opposite of a long-ball team. I know they lost their head coach and several players, but did they really change their approach 180 degrees? Is that an accurate characterization?
 

Kante

GOLD
here's predicts vs actuals for this last weekend (3/7). home team is listed first. some interesting results. btw, It's National Clint Dempsey Day. Here's a quick tribute to Deuce. That goal vs Juventus got him on the map. Twas a thing of beauty.


predict: Real Salt Lake 3 - Strikers 1 actuals: Real Salt Lake 0 - Strikers 2 (thx chule!)
note: Solid result for Strikers. RSL was missing three top players at the u15 ynt camp. However, RSL also seems to be in little bit of a freefall. Even including the three players at camp, RSL has been on steep declining trend/step down on both sides of the ball since Valentine's Day (i.e. since the GA Cup). not sure what's up, but RSL seems like they need a course correction.

Here's RSL's Goal Differential % chart:

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predict: San Diego Surf 1 - LAFC 2 actuals: San Diego Surf 4 - LAFC 1
note: so to repeat from an earlier post, at the top of The Algo's early Xmas list, any pointers to video of this match? Pretty please.

Lots of discussion on this match. it looks like, other than the score, the game report is incorrect - eg, game report says that neither team subbed at all and have heard from multiple folks that that's accurate. So, will go from when goals were scored and what folks have said for sources...

per game report, LAFC scored early w/ SR putting one in at the 7th minute. But then, it sounds like TW for SD Surf had himself a game with an early hat trick (for context, only one other player has scored more than one goal on the LAFC 05s in USSDA games across all matches played...) and that is no mean feat. per game report, it looks like SD Surf got into LAFC early and TW's goals all came in a ten minute period early in the first half. MG contributed the other SD Surf goal in the second half.

It sounds like SD Surf came out in a 4-4-2 with TW on the left left mid/wing and MG on the right mid/wing. Basically, SD Surf making LAFC pick their poison. Plus it sounds like SD Surf drilled the 4-4-2 enough that both TW and MG did a good job on pinching in to defend when LAFC had the ball. Which is where the 4-4-2 can fall short.

In addition, it sounds like SD Surf consciously maintained a high line to take away LAFC passing options, and also kept the LAFC 6 under pressure. and, if this is the case, then SD Surf backline also did a good job of taking away the long ball option to go over the top.

So folks, there's the roadmap to beating LAFC. But you need two strong wings to pull it off and a lot of discipline across the team. Also, am not sure how SD Surf's game plan work with RW and DR are available for LAFC. Given the comments, can completely see where RW and DR for LAFc could have made a lot of difference.

An additional quick note/item to chew on:

SD Surf has always leveraged MG, in particular to draw defensive attention/open things up, and absolutely have historically put the ball long to him when they needed a goal but they also have played some good soccer.

Watched the West regional camp last year and when SD Surf had their full contingent - nine players (?) - the southwest group dominated in the scrimmages. But, when even a couple of Surf players were not on the field, it broke down a bit.

Point being, SD Surf clearly has a really good system, and very solid tactical coaching, but the flip side of that coin is that folks - maybe rightly/maybe wrongly - discount the individual Surf players because of the strength of the system and there may be some merit to this.
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Any other comments on how the respective midfields did, either here or via DM?


predict: Nomads 1 - Real SoCal 2 actuals: Nomads 2 - Real SoCal 2
note: Nomads continue to get results. fun to see. looking forward to seeing the game report on this one.

predict: Pateadores 3 - Albion 1 actuals: Pateadores 5 - Albion 0
note: looks like it's going to be a long 2 1/2 months thru the rest of the season for Albion

predict: LA Galaxy 4 - TFA 2 actuals: LA Galaxy 2 - TFA 0
note: another solid results from LAG as they continue the defensively led resurgence (four shut-outs in last nine matches including GA Cup) since Thanksgiving

predict: FC Golden State 5 - LAUFA 1 actuals: FC Golden State 2 - LAUFA 1
note: FCG did play one 06, and he got the winning goal. solid match by LAUFA and they beat The Algo handily. 0-0 at ht. FCG went up 1-0 early in 2h. LAUFA tied it at the 58th minute, but FCG won late on the 06s's goal.
 
here's predicts vs actuals for this last weekend (3/7). home team is listed first. some interesting results. btw, It's National Clint Dempsey Day. Here's a quick tribute to Deuce. That goal vs Juventus got him on the map. Twas a thing of beauty.


predict: Real Salt Lake 3 - Strikers 1 actuals: Real Salt Lake 0 - Strikers 2 (thx chule!)
note: Solid result for Strikers. RSL was missing three top players at the u15 ynt camp. However, RSL also seems to be in little bit of a freefall. Even including the three players at camp, RSL has been on steep declining trend/step down on both sides of the ball since Valentine's Day (i.e. since the GA Cup). not sure what's up, but RSL seems like they need a course correction.

Here's RSL's Goal Differential % chart:

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predict: San Diego Surf 1 - LAFC 2 actuals: San Diego Surf 4 - LAFC 1
note: so to repeat from an earlier post, at the top of The Algo's early Xmas list, any pointers to video of this match? Pretty please.

Lots of discussion on this match. it looks like, other than the score, the game report is incorrect - eg, game report says that neither team subbed at all and have heard from multiple folks that that's accurate. So, will go from when goals were scored and what folks have said for sources...

per game report, LAFC scored early w/ SR putting one in at the 7th minute. But then, it sounds like TW for SD Surf had himself a game with an early hat trick (for context, only one other player has scored more than one goal on the LAFC 05s in USSDA games across all matches played...) and that is no mean feat. per game report, it looks like SD Surf got into LAFC early and TW's goals all came in a ten minute period early in the first half. MG contributed the other SD Surf goal in the second half.

It sounds like SD Surf came out in a 4-4-2 with TW on the left left mid/wing and MG on the right mid/wing. Basically, SD Surf making LAFC pick their poison. Plus it sounds like SD Surf drilled the 4-4-2 enough that both TW and MG did a good job on pinching in to defend when LAFC had the ball. Which is where the 4-4-2 can fall short.

In addition, it sounds like SD Surf consciously maintained a high line to take away LAFC passing options, and also kept the LAFC 6 under pressure. and, if this is the case, then SD Surf backline also did a good job of taking away the long ball option to go over the top.

So folks, there's the roadmap to beating LAFC. But you need two strong wings to pull it off and a lot of discipline across the team. Also, am not sure how SD Surf's game plan work with RW and DR are available for LAFC. Given the comments, can completely see where RW and DR for LAFc could have made a lot of difference.

An additional quick note/item to chew on:

SD Surf has always leveraged MG, in particular to draw defensive attention/open things up, and absolutely have historically put the ball long to him when they needed a goal but they also have played some good soccer.

Watched the West regional camp last year and when SD Surf had their full contingent - nine players (?) - the southwest group dominated in the scrimmages. But, when even a couple of Surf players were not on the field, it broke down a bit.

Point being, SD Surf clearly has a really good system, and very solid tactical coaching, but the flip side of that coin is that folks - maybe rightly/maybe wrongly - discount the individual Surf players because of the strength of the system and there may be some merit to this.
______

Any other comments on how the respective midfields did, either here or via DM?


predict: Nomads 1 - Real SoCal 2 actuals: Nomads 2 - Real SoCal 2
note: Nomads continue to get results. fun to see. looking forward to seeing the game report on this one.

predict: Pateadores 3 - Albion 1 actuals: Pateadores 5 - Albion 0
note: looks like it's going to be a long 2 1/2 months thru the rest of the season for Albion

predict: LA Galaxy 4 - TFA 2 actuals: LA Galaxy 2 - TFA 0
note: another solid results from LAG as they continue the defensively led resurgence (four shut-outs in last nine matches including GA Cup) since Thanksgiving

predict: FC Golden State 5 - LAUFA 1 actuals: FC Golden State 2 - LAUFA 1
note: FCG did play one 06, and he got the winning goal. solid match by LAUFA and they beat The Algo handily. 0-0 at ht. FCG went up 1-0 early in 2h. LAUFA tied it at the 58th minute, but FCG won late on the 06s's goal.
FCGS vs LAUFA
one of the best game we've had. both teams fought up to the end. we missed a pk and few good shots on 1st half. laufas keeper is really good. they missed few good chances too.
2nd half was with the same intensity, we scored on a counterattack play.
laufa scored back on another counterattack. we finally scored towards the end, but both teams never stopped playing. it was a good game.
 

Kante

GOLD
FCGS vs LAUFA
one of the best game we've had. both teams fought up to the end. we missed a pk and few good shots on 1st half. laufas keeper is really good. they missed few good chances too.
2nd half was with the same intensity, we scored on a counterattack play.
laufa scored back on another counterattack. we finally scored towards the end, but both teams never stopped playing. it was a good game.
good stuff. thx!
 
Watch Liverpool play. Do they play out of the back all day? Hell no. They press and play direct to their fast forwards. Would anybody call that not playing soccer? I get why possession is taught, but if the best way to win a game is to play direct then hell yeah, play that way.
well, you are making a bad comparison. liverpool plays to please the audience and generate money. our system is to try to develop players in all field positions. remember the meaning of DA.
 
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