jpeter
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LAFC is going to need some help or luck to make the DA winter cup with only 8pts in 7 games and -3 GD. I dunno if any other MLS clubs are going to miss out on the DA cup but LAFC is sitting on the outside in 6th place.
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LAFC is going to need some help or luck to make the DA winter cup with only 8pts in 7 games and -3 GD. I dunno if any other MLS clubs are going to miss out on the DA cup but LAFC is sitting on the outside in 6th place.
FC Golden State also has 8pts in 6 games and +2 GD. They would need to lose big vs Surf this weekend for LAFC to have any chance to sneak in to 5th place. Top 5 are pretty much set with 2,3 & 4 positions to be decided this weekend. I saw the LAFC/EQ match this weekend.LAFC is going to need some help or luck to make the DA winter cup with only 8pts in 7 games and -3 GD. I dunno if any other MLS clubs are going to miss out on the DA cup but LAFC is sitting on the outside in 6th place.
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1st half was fairly evenly matched with the edge going to LAFC due to the two goals scored. LAFC's first score on a turnover from a poor pass back from a SJ midfielder and LAFC capitalizing with numbers on offense for the goal. The second goal was an excellent team goal down the sideline passing and cross to the middle for the score.
2nd half it was either substitutions/adjustments from each team or if LAFC just ran out of gas. SJ's first goal was off a breakaway down the side with a clear foul inside the box when the LAFC player kicked through the SJ player missing the ball completely. Second goal was from individual play of a SJ defender dribbling through LAFC chipping over the GK. The 3rd goal came on another break away and clear foul from behind right at the 18. Ref could have called PK or placed outside the box. Should have been a straight red (Denying an Obvious Goalscoring Opportunity) but the ref chose to issue a yellow which may be why he called it a PK instead of placing it outside the box.
Kante
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Here's predicts for this coming weekend (11/9). Got busy last week, so apologies for missing.
The algorithm is starting to settle down with the other age groups and accuracy is going up. Will see if this is the case this weekend w/ u17.
Best of luck! Home team is listed first, and order is alpha by home team.
SoCal
Arsenal 1 - Real SoCal 2
Barca 4 - Albion 1
FC Golden State 1 - Nomads 1
LAFC 2 - LAGSD 2
LAFC 3 - Strikers 2
Pateadores 3 - LAGSD 1
Real Salt Lake 1 - LA Galaxy 2
San Diego Surf 3 - Strikers 1
Non SoCal
Breakers 1 - SVSA 8
Crossfire Premier 2 - Seattle Sounders 1
De Anza 3 - Sacramento Republic 3
San Jose Earthquakes 2 - Ballistic 1
The algorithm is starting to settle down with the other age groups and accuracy is going up. Will see if this is the case this weekend w/ u17.
Best of luck! Home team is listed first, and order is alpha by home team.
SoCal
Arsenal 1 - Real SoCal 2
Barca 4 - Albion 1
FC Golden State 1 - Nomads 1
LAFC 2 - LAGSD 2
LAFC 3 - Strikers 2
Pateadores 3 - LAGSD 1
Real Salt Lake 1 - LA Galaxy 2
San Diego Surf 3 - Strikers 1
Non SoCal
Breakers 1 - SVSA 8
Crossfire Premier 2 - Seattle Sounders 1
De Anza 3 - Sacramento Republic 3
San Jose Earthquakes 2 - Ballistic 1
Kante
PREMIER
Here's predicts vs actuals for this last weekend (11/9). The algorithm is starting to settle down with the other age groups and accuracy is going up, but still working on u17... large rosters w/ a mix of ages makes it tough. will keep plugging away...
Home team is listed first, and order is alpha by home team.
SoCal
predict: Arsenal 1 - Real SoCal 2 actuals: Arsenal 1 - Real SoCal 3
predict: Barca 4 - Albion 1 actuals: Barca 2 - Albion 0
predict: FC Golden State 1 - Nomads 1 actuals: FC Golden State 1 - Nomads 3
predict: LAFC 2 - LAGSD 2 actuals: LAFC 3 - LAGSD 1
predict: LAFC 3 - Strikers 2 actuals: LAFC 2 - Strikers 2
predict: Pateadores 3 - LAGSD 1 actuals: Pateadores 7 - LAGSD 3
predict: Real Salt Lake 1 - LA Galaxy 2 actuals: Real Salt Lake 3 - LA Galaxy 0
predict: San Diego Surf 3 - Strikers 1 actuals: pending - anyone have the score here?
Non SoCal
predict: Breakers 1 - SVSA 8 actuals: Breakers 3 - SVSA 1
predict: Crossfire Premier 2 - Seattle Sounders 1 actuals: Crossfire Premier 1 - Seattle Sounders 2
predict: De Anza 3 - Sacramento Republic 3 actuals: De Anza 2 - Sacramento Republic 1
predict: San Jose Earthquakes 2 - Ballistic 1 actuals: pending - anyone have the score here?
Home team is listed first, and order is alpha by home team.
SoCal
predict: Arsenal 1 - Real SoCal 2 actuals: Arsenal 1 - Real SoCal 3
predict: Barca 4 - Albion 1 actuals: Barca 2 - Albion 0
predict: FC Golden State 1 - Nomads 1 actuals: FC Golden State 1 - Nomads 3
predict: LAFC 2 - LAGSD 2 actuals: LAFC 3 - LAGSD 1
predict: LAFC 3 - Strikers 2 actuals: LAFC 2 - Strikers 2
predict: Pateadores 3 - LAGSD 1 actuals: Pateadores 7 - LAGSD 3
predict: Real Salt Lake 1 - LA Galaxy 2 actuals: Real Salt Lake 3 - LA Galaxy 0
predict: San Diego Surf 3 - Strikers 1 actuals: pending - anyone have the score here?
Non SoCal
predict: Breakers 1 - SVSA 8 actuals: Breakers 3 - SVSA 1
predict: Crossfire Premier 2 - Seattle Sounders 1 actuals: Crossfire Premier 1 - Seattle Sounders 2
predict: De Anza 3 - Sacramento Republic 3 actuals: De Anza 2 - Sacramento Republic 1
predict: San Jose Earthquakes 2 - Ballistic 1 actuals: pending - anyone have the score here?
Kante
PREMIER
here's predicts for this weekend (11/16). home team is listed first and in alpha order.
SoCal
LAFC 4 - Arsenal 1
LA Galaxy 2 - Pateadores 2 - match to watch
Non SoCal
Ballistic 2 - De Anza 2 - match to watch
Crossfire Premier 1 - SVSA 2 - match to watch
note: w/ fairly steady improvement on both sides of the ball (except for last week where they may have underestimated the Breakers), SVSA is not ranked nationally by TDS but probably should be. This weekend will have two good matches to see where SVSA is at.
Crossfire Premier 3 - Sacramento Republic 2
Vancouver 1 - Sacramento Republic 1
Vancouver 0 - SVSA 2 - match to watch
note: w/ fairly steady improvement on both sides of the ball (except for last week where they may have underestimated the Breakers), SVSA is not ranked nationally by TDS but probably should be. This weekend will have two good matches to see where SVSA is at.
SoCal
LAFC 4 - Arsenal 1
LA Galaxy 2 - Pateadores 2 - match to watch
Non SoCal
Ballistic 2 - De Anza 2 - match to watch
Crossfire Premier 1 - SVSA 2 - match to watch
note: w/ fairly steady improvement on both sides of the ball (except for last week where they may have underestimated the Breakers), SVSA is not ranked nationally by TDS but probably should be. This weekend will have two good matches to see where SVSA is at.
Crossfire Premier 3 - Sacramento Republic 2
Vancouver 1 - Sacramento Republic 1
Vancouver 0 - SVSA 2 - match to watch
note: w/ fairly steady improvement on both sides of the ball (except for last week where they may have underestimated the Breakers), SVSA is not ranked nationally by TDS but probably should be. This weekend will have two good matches to see where SVSA is at.
Kante
PREMIER
Usually would post something like this in the Soccer Nerd thread - https://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/going-full-soccer-academy-nerd.17391/page-2#post-297541 - but today is different. Today, the USMNT is playing Canada in the second leg of the Nations Cup. Coverage for the USMNT vs Canada starts at 4pm pst on ESPN2, Unimas and TUDN.
Why does it matter?
The stakes are high for the match this evening in a way they haven't been for the USMNT since last WC qualifying, and we all know how that went.
Because of new FIFA rules, Canada must win today to have a 100% shot at qualifying for the 2022 WC. Last match, they beat the US 2-0 with the best Canadian team - and best Canadian coach - in a generation. Worse, the US looked really bad in the loss, and most thought the 0-2 scoreline was generous to the US. If Canada draws, they have 50/50 shot at getting a chance to qualify for the WC and if they lose, there's only a small possibility.
On the flip side, after the 0-2 loss, the USMNT coach, Greg Berhalter - went on the public record as saying the second US v Canada match was a " must win." US Soccer GM Earnie Stewart this week walked that statement back a bit, saying one result would not determine the fate of Berhalter but...
For background, here's one the best articles on the current state of the USMNT is below. Here's the article - https://theathletic.com/1379646/2019/11/15/no-country-for-usmnt-fans/
(One point that is missed a bit - is that at the youth level - the window for the kids is small, and waiting out the US Soccer dysfunction, the way one might wait out a pro sports team's run of poor performance, is not really an option imo.)
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Why does it matter?
The stakes are high for the match this evening in a way they haven't been for the USMNT since last WC qualifying, and we all know how that went.
Because of new FIFA rules, Canada must win today to have a 100% shot at qualifying for the 2022 WC. Last match, they beat the US 2-0 with the best Canadian team - and best Canadian coach - in a generation. Worse, the US looked really bad in the loss, and most thought the 0-2 scoreline was generous to the US. If Canada draws, they have 50/50 shot at getting a chance to qualify for the WC and if they lose, there's only a small possibility.
On the flip side, after the 0-2 loss, the USMNT coach, Greg Berhalter - went on the public record as saying the second US v Canada match was a " must win." US Soccer GM Earnie Stewart this week walked that statement back a bit, saying one result would not determine the fate of Berhalter but...
For background, here's one the best articles on the current state of the USMNT is below. Here's the article - https://theathletic.com/1379646/2019/11/15/no-country-for-usmnt-fans/
(One point that is missed a bit - is that at the youth level - the window for the kids is small, and waiting out the US Soccer dysfunction, the way one might wait out a pro sports team's run of poor performance, is not really an option imo.)
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jimbohonky
SILVER
Anybody know how the Galaxy U16/17s did this weekend?
jimbohonky
SILVER
Much Obliged
Kante
PREMIER
here's predicts vs actuals for this last weekend (11/16). home team is listed first and in alpha order.
SoCal
predict: LAFC 4 - Arsenal 1 / actuals: pending - anyone have the score here?
predict: LA Galaxy 2 - Pateadores 2 / actuals: LA Galaxy 0 - Pateadores 4
note: interesting result. Pats were up 2-0 at ht and then a quick one at start of 2h to make it 3-0, and then one last one at the 73rd minute for the 4-0 final score. However, a comment on the board - LAG played mostly 04s - peaked interest.
(insert soapbox here...)
per the game report, LAG started nine 04s, four of whom went the full 90. Three 04s and two 03s were subbed in in the 2h for five 04s. Pats played three 04s. And the average dob of LAG players on the field was Feb 3, 2004. The average dob of the Pats players on the field was Sep 7, 2003.
So, on average, the Pats players were about five months older than the LAG players.
The age difference doesn't seem like that much, but even at this older age group, the CDC says that - comparing boys who end up at the average height and weight - while a five month age difference at u17 accounts for only about 1/2 inch difference in height, the age difference also accounts for about 10 pounds difference in weight, almost all of which is muscle.
So, running the numbers and putting this in terms of grown men playing, the age difference this weekend was like two teams of 5'10" players but while the Pats on average weighed about 166 pounds, the younger team - LA Galaxy - weighed in, on average, at 155, with that 11 pounds being almost entirely muscle, per player across the board.
Tough handicap, and the algo says it's worth about +4 goals for the Pats.
(stepping down from the soapbox now...)
Non SoCal
predict: Ballistic 2 - De Anza 2 / actuals: Ballistic 0 - De Anza 1
predict: Crossfire Premier 1 - SVSA 2 / actuals: Crossfire Premier 4 - SVSA 0
note: this match was a good test to see where SVSA is at. the u15s and u17s are hard to predict because the DA Cups generally grouped like for like teams, so, based on DA Cup results, good teams generally don't look as good as they really are, and not so good teams also don't show as much for the same reason. from the results this weekend, SVSA, despite some decent past results, has work to do.
predict: Crossfire Premier 3 - Sacramento Republic 2 / actuals: Crossfire Premier 3 - Sacramento Republic 4
predict: Vancouver 1 - Sacramento Republic 1 / actuals: pending - anyone have the score here?
predict: Vancouver 0 - SVSA 2 / actuals: Vancouver 2 - SVSA 1
SoCal
predict: LAFC 4 - Arsenal 1 / actuals: pending - anyone have the score here?
predict: LA Galaxy 2 - Pateadores 2 / actuals: LA Galaxy 0 - Pateadores 4
note: interesting result. Pats were up 2-0 at ht and then a quick one at start of 2h to make it 3-0, and then one last one at the 73rd minute for the 4-0 final score. However, a comment on the board - LAG played mostly 04s - peaked interest.
(insert soapbox here...)
per the game report, LAG started nine 04s, four of whom went the full 90. Three 04s and two 03s were subbed in in the 2h for five 04s. Pats played three 04s. And the average dob of LAG players on the field was Feb 3, 2004. The average dob of the Pats players on the field was Sep 7, 2003.
So, on average, the Pats players were about five months older than the LAG players.
The age difference doesn't seem like that much, but even at this older age group, the CDC says that - comparing boys who end up at the average height and weight - while a five month age difference at u17 accounts for only about 1/2 inch difference in height, the age difference also accounts for about 10 pounds difference in weight, almost all of which is muscle.
So, running the numbers and putting this in terms of grown men playing, the age difference this weekend was like two teams of 5'10" players but while the Pats on average weighed about 166 pounds, the younger team - LA Galaxy - weighed in, on average, at 155, with that 11 pounds being almost entirely muscle, per player across the board.
Tough handicap, and the algo says it's worth about +4 goals for the Pats.
(stepping down from the soapbox now...)
Non SoCal
predict: Ballistic 2 - De Anza 2 / actuals: Ballistic 0 - De Anza 1
predict: Crossfire Premier 1 - SVSA 2 / actuals: Crossfire Premier 4 - SVSA 0
note: this match was a good test to see where SVSA is at. the u15s and u17s are hard to predict because the DA Cups generally grouped like for like teams, so, based on DA Cup results, good teams generally don't look as good as they really are, and not so good teams also don't show as much for the same reason. from the results this weekend, SVSA, despite some decent past results, has work to do.
predict: Crossfire Premier 3 - Sacramento Republic 2 / actuals: Crossfire Premier 3 - Sacramento Republic 4
predict: Vancouver 1 - Sacramento Republic 1 / actuals: pending - anyone have the score here?
predict: Vancouver 0 - SVSA 2 / actuals: Vancouver 2 - SVSA 1
Biggest X-factor at this age group is the 2004 and 2003 mix and which teams decide which players to play and against whom. The algo is gonna be jacked up all year. It’ll be much easier if they split the age group next year.
Kante
PREMIER
yup, will be a challenge. typically, teams have patterns that they settle into and the algo is able to pick it up. looks like LAG has a lot more 04s than most teams, so they'll be the toughest. will see.
also be interesting to see, albeit after the fact, the impact of the different ages on outcomes.
With the age discussion of the PAT's vs. LA Galaxy going on I thought it would be interesting to look at the California DA Cup Teams number of 2003 and 2004 rostered players.
LAG 17-2003 and 18-2004
Pats 17-2003 and 5 2004
SDS 21-2003 and 3 2004
SJEQ 13-2003 and 12-2004
FCGS 21-2003 and 8-2004
LAFC 4-2004 and 18-2004
DAF 21-2003 and 3-2004
SR 13-2003 and 12-2004
LAFC has gone with mostly 2004's which should put them in a strong position next year. LAG seems to have two full teams on their roster of 2003's and 2004's but if the DA adds the U16 age group they will also be in a strong position next year. SJEQ and SR have balances rosters between 2003's and 04's. PAT's, SDS, FCGS and DAF are all top heavy with 2003's.
These numbers tell me The MLS Clubs have an easier time recruiting and can concentrate on development with less pressure to win than the non-DA clubs. Whether anyone likes it or not, if your not a MLS Club, you have to win to recruit.
LAG 17-2003 and 18-2004
Pats 17-2003 and 5 2004
SDS 21-2003 and 3 2004
SJEQ 13-2003 and 12-2004
FCGS 21-2003 and 8-2004
LAFC 4-2004 and 18-2004
DAF 21-2003 and 3-2004
SR 13-2003 and 12-2004
LAFC has gone with mostly 2004's which should put them in a strong position next year. LAG seems to have two full teams on their roster of 2003's and 2004's but if the DA adds the U16 age group they will also be in a strong position next year. SJEQ and SR have balances rosters between 2003's and 04's. PAT's, SDS, FCGS and DAF are all top heavy with 2003's.
These numbers tell me The MLS Clubs have an easier time recruiting and can concentrate on development with less pressure to win than the non-DA clubs. Whether anyone likes it or not, if your not a MLS Club, you have to win to recruit.
Kante
PREMIER
here's predicts for this weekend (11/23) home team is listed first and order is alpha by home team.
a quick note: a number of u16-u17 (which is really u17) have a fair number of 04s on their roster. this make predicting outcomes challenging. Even at this age, even a several months difference in age makes a big difference in physical development (easier to quantify) and mental development (harder to to quantify).
Cibo (thank you!) just went thru some of the rosters to ID some of the teams w/ a lot of 04s as well as a lot of 03s. These teams' predicts will vary significantly for longer than usual because the algo has to pick up on their roster patterns but it will get there.
in the meantime, it's a really interesting experiment comparing predicts to outcomes and then looking at the relative average age of the two teams to see what the estimated impact of the age difference is.
here's some of the teams w/ a heavy mix of 03s and 04s (thx again to Cibo!). Below this list are the predicts for this weekend.
SoCal
Barca 4 - LAGSD 1
FC Golden State 2 - Arsenal 1
LAFC 1 - Real Salt Lake 2 - match to watch
Pateadores 3 - LA Galaxy 2 - match to watch (bring the popcorn!)
note: Pateadores just beat last weekend LAG 4-0. But, LAG played mostly 04s while Pats played mostly 03s. Looked at the DOBs and Pats players, and, on average, the Pats were about five months older than the average LAG players.
per CDC numbers, even at this age, that five month age difference accounted, on average, for about an advantage of about ten pounds of muscle per player for the Pats over the average LAG player. algo had predicted 2-2 result last week but actual result was 4-0 Pats. Will et you do the math on that.
Now, a rematch and the numbers algo is super stoked to what happens. best bet is that LAG comes w/ the 04s to play to win the match. whatever happens, it will be a really test case to what happens. downside is that while the algo is doing its best, predicting the outcome of this match is almost impossible. but it will be to watch and to review after the fact.
San Diego Surf 2 - Albion 0
Non-SoCal
Ballistic 2 - Portland Timbers 3
Sacramento Republic 3 - SVSA 2
SJ Quakes 3 - Portland Timbers 1
Vancouver Whitecaps 1 - Seattle Sounders 1 - match to watch
a quick note: a number of u16-u17 (which is really u17) have a fair number of 04s on their roster. this make predicting outcomes challenging. Even at this age, even a several months difference in age makes a big difference in physical development (easier to quantify) and mental development (harder to to quantify).
Cibo (thank you!) just went thru some of the rosters to ID some of the teams w/ a lot of 04s as well as a lot of 03s. These teams' predicts will vary significantly for longer than usual because the algo has to pick up on their roster patterns but it will get there.
in the meantime, it's a really interesting experiment comparing predicts to outcomes and then looking at the relative average age of the two teams to see what the estimated impact of the age difference is.
here's some of the teams w/ a heavy mix of 03s and 04s (thx again to Cibo!). Below this list are the predicts for this weekend.
- LA Galaxy 17-2003 and 18-2004
- SJ Earthquakes 13-2003 and 12-2004
- FCG 21-2003 and 8-2004
- Sacramento Republic 13-2003 and 12-2004
SoCal
Barca 4 - LAGSD 1
FC Golden State 2 - Arsenal 1
LAFC 1 - Real Salt Lake 2 - match to watch
Pateadores 3 - LA Galaxy 2 - match to watch (bring the popcorn!)
note: Pateadores just beat last weekend LAG 4-0. But, LAG played mostly 04s while Pats played mostly 03s. Looked at the DOBs and Pats players, and, on average, the Pats were about five months older than the average LAG players.
per CDC numbers, even at this age, that five month age difference accounted, on average, for about an advantage of about ten pounds of muscle per player for the Pats over the average LAG player. algo had predicted 2-2 result last week but actual result was 4-0 Pats. Will et you do the math on that.
Now, a rematch and the numbers algo is super stoked to what happens. best bet is that LAG comes w/ the 04s to play to win the match. whatever happens, it will be a really test case to what happens. downside is that while the algo is doing its best, predicting the outcome of this match is almost impossible. but it will be to watch and to review after the fact.
San Diego Surf 2 - Albion 0
Non-SoCal
Ballistic 2 - Portland Timbers 3
Sacramento Republic 3 - SVSA 2
SJ Quakes 3 - Portland Timbers 1
Vancouver Whitecaps 1 - Seattle Sounders 1 - match to watch
Raggamufin
BRONZE
Golden State 4 -5 03 who are PT players. They were added a few weeks ago because of injuries and emergency.
They are allowed to play 12 games but I don’t think they will use unless there is another emergency .
Nice predictions Kante correct on 5 of 8.
LAG went with an even mix of 2003s and 2004s which may be the difference with the previous week using mostly 2004s. With half the season over and so few matches in league play, the Southwest looks like there will be a lot of movement in the standings and who makes the playoffs after the break. Northwest also has many matches to play, but looks much more predictable than the Southwest.
Kante
PREMIER
here's predicts vs actuals for this weekend (11/23) home team is listed first and order is alpha by home team. Happy Turkey Day!
SoCal
predict: Barca 4 - LAGSD 1 actuals: Barca 3 - LAGSD 1
predict: FC Golden State 2 - Arsenal 1 actuals: FC Golden State 4 - Arsenal 1
predict: LAFC 1 - Real Salt Lake 2 actuals: LAFC 0 - Real Salt Lake 3
predict: Pateadores 3 - LA Galaxy 2 actuals: Pateadores 1 - LA Galaxy 1
note: last weekend, Pateadores beat LAG 4-0. But, LAG played mostly 04s while Pats played mostly 03s. Looked at the DOBs and Pats players, and, on average, the Pats were about five months older than the average LAG players.
This time around, LAG brought a more even mix of 03s and 04s but still averaged out at a relatively young average DOB of 10/29/03. However, Pats' 03s are also relatively young and their roster average DOB was 9/16/03, about a week younger than last week.
And, shockingly, LAG, with an average player DOB of 10/29/03, playing a Pats team with an average player DOB of 9/16/03 i.e. giving up only about six weeks in age, resulted in a tie score of 1-1.
As opposed to a 4-0 loss when LAG gave up about five months in age.
So yes, at least in this instance, player age at u17 - even just five months difference - seems to matter, a lot. Given that this is age advantage is not exactly a state secret and pretty easy to consistently document, seems like US Soccer might generate more significantly more talent for the SR USMNT (the cup doesn't exactly runneth over right now) by normalizing for this age advantage as players develop in the USSDA. just saying.
any other comments or insights on this match - either for post or DM?
predict: San Diego Surf 2 - Albion 0 actuals: rescheduled
Non-SoCal
predict: Ballistic 2 - Portland Timbers 3 actuals: Ballistic 1 - Portland Timbers 5
predict: Sacramento Republic 3 - SVSA 2 actuals: Sacramento Republic 1 - SVSA 3
predict: SJ Quakes 3 - Portland Timbers 1 actuals: SJ Quakes 6 - Portland Timbers 1
predict: Vancouver Whitecaps 1 - Seattle Sounders 1 actuals: Vancouver Whitecaps 0 - Seattle Sounders 1
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SoCal
predict: Barca 4 - LAGSD 1 actuals: Barca 3 - LAGSD 1
predict: FC Golden State 2 - Arsenal 1 actuals: FC Golden State 4 - Arsenal 1
predict: LAFC 1 - Real Salt Lake 2 actuals: LAFC 0 - Real Salt Lake 3
predict: Pateadores 3 - LA Galaxy 2 actuals: Pateadores 1 - LA Galaxy 1
note: last weekend, Pateadores beat LAG 4-0. But, LAG played mostly 04s while Pats played mostly 03s. Looked at the DOBs and Pats players, and, on average, the Pats were about five months older than the average LAG players.
This time around, LAG brought a more even mix of 03s and 04s but still averaged out at a relatively young average DOB of 10/29/03. However, Pats' 03s are also relatively young and their roster average DOB was 9/16/03, about a week younger than last week.
And, shockingly, LAG, with an average player DOB of 10/29/03, playing a Pats team with an average player DOB of 9/16/03 i.e. giving up only about six weeks in age, resulted in a tie score of 1-1.
As opposed to a 4-0 loss when LAG gave up about five months in age.
So yes, at least in this instance, player age at u17 - even just five months difference - seems to matter, a lot. Given that this is age advantage is not exactly a state secret and pretty easy to consistently document, seems like US Soccer might generate more significantly more talent for the SR USMNT (the cup doesn't exactly runneth over right now) by normalizing for this age advantage as players develop in the USSDA. just saying.
any other comments or insights on this match - either for post or DM?
predict: San Diego Surf 2 - Albion 0 actuals: rescheduled
Non-SoCal
predict: Ballistic 2 - Portland Timbers 3 actuals: Ballistic 1 - Portland Timbers 5
predict: Sacramento Republic 3 - SVSA 2 actuals: Sacramento Republic 1 - SVSA 3
predict: SJ Quakes 3 - Portland Timbers 1 actuals: SJ Quakes 6 - Portland Timbers 1
predict: Vancouver Whitecaps 1 - Seattle Sounders 1 actuals: Vancouver Whitecaps 0 - Seattle Sounders 1
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