Bad News Thread

The uk may have topped its curve out. Cases have been in decline the last 4 days despite reopening. Australia despite its ever stringent lockdown though still has a rising curb and is extending the lockdowns yet again. Taiwan doesn’t have the delta spreading but even with the alpha is having a tough time getting back to zero…they are around 22 and still might manage to tap it down.
There are quite a few variables in the UK which are probably pretty unique.

This article seems pretty balanced and points out a variety of those. The conclusion is that its too early to tell.

 
Given cases are up to almost the winter wave, and that if you are covid positive for any reason in the hospital you count as hospitalized (because they must treat your covid along with anything else) that’s actually very good. Vaccines working.
Who'd a thunk it - pity we have so many anti-vac peeps around.
 
9th circuit has ruled newsom overstepped in shutting down private schools (both religious and non). Can shut down public but not private. Cannot set a zero capacity limit for them if allowing other things…implied a hybrid limitation might be ok but not a total shutdown if other things allowed open
 
9th circuit has ruled newsom overstepped in shutting down private schools (both religious and non). Can shut down public but not private. Cannot set a zero capacity limit for them if allowing other things…implied a hybrid limitation might be ok but not a total shutdown if other things allowed open
Friends of mine were plaintiffs in this case
 
Who'd a thunk it - pity we have so many anti-vac peeps around.
I actually chalk it up to the fact that the vast majority of people have no risk and therefor don't want to take a vaccine.

The at risk group at 65+ age range is close to 90% vaccinated. That is the group that accounted for 80+% of all deaths. The rest at younger ages? Mainly people with serious health issues.

I imagine if they had the stats for the under 65 age group who had serious health risks, you would find an extremely high vax rate there as well.
 
I actually chalk it up to the fact that the vast majority of people have no risk and therefor don't want to take a vaccine.

The at risk group at 65+ age range is close to 90% vaccinated. That is the group that accounted for 80+% of all deaths. The rest at younger ages? Mainly people with serious health issues.

I imagine if they had the stats for the under 65 age group who had serious health risks, you would find an extremely high vax rate there as well.

There's a couple of fucking idiots right there.
 
San Francisco positivity rate now the highest it’s been since the beginning: all those antivaxxers San Franciscans ruining it for the rest of us.
 
I actually chalk it up to the fact that the vast majority of people have no risk and therefor don't want to take a vaccine.

The at risk group at 65+ age range is close to 90% vaccinated. That is the group that accounted for 80+% of all deaths. The rest at younger ages? Mainly people with serious health issues.

I imagine if they had the stats for the under 65 age group who had serious health risks, you would find an extremely high vax rate there as well.
Alternatively you stop the spread via vaccinations, you also stop the mutations if you stop the spread. Mutations could be milder or more serious. Mutations could be more dangerous to everyone irrespective of age or health, or not - we don't know as they haven't happened yet.

I guess its kind of like the "your body my choice" people who are now saying "my body my choice". But we should not be surprised because they never said "your body my choice but here's free healthcare so that we can get the infant mortality rate in this country to the lowest in the world versus #52 currently", i.e. I want to make a choice for you but I want you to be the only one impacted by it.
 
Alternatively you stop the spread via vaccinations, you also stop the mutations if you stop the spread. Mutations could be milder or more serious. Mutations could be more dangerous to everyone irrespective of age or health, or not - we don't know as they haven't happened yet.

I guess its kind of like the "your body my choice" people who are now saying "my body my choice". But we should not be surprised because they never said "your body my choice but here's free healthcare so that we can get the infant mortality rate in this country to the lowest in the world versus #52 currently", i.e. I want to make a choice for you but I want you to be the only one impacted by it.
There’s no reasonable chance of stopping mutations. We haven’t even been able to get rid of polio. You really think vaccine uptake is going to be 100% eventually in the mess that is Afghanistan? Japan and australia can’t even vaccinated their populations and Chile is relying on the China vaccine which is even more of a failure. Most of the worst won’t be vaccinated until 2022 and some parts of the world not even to 2023. Stop the mutations is a ridiculous pipe dream argument. And if we really cared about the world we’d be vaccinating the third world elderly before attempting to vaccinate our children.
 
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