Parent tackles AR

I'm looking for a business partner. I want to install boxing rings at all soccer complexes (probably hockey rinks and baseball fields too) around the country. 14 oz gloves. Head gear. Moutpieces. Certified Referees. 3 rounds of 3 minutes.
If you want to fight a coach, ref, parent or player- You gotta step into the ring.
If you win your fight- Your kid is free to continue playing
If you lose your fight- Your kid is banned from all team and individual sports for 2 years.

Referees, at their discretion, can also choose to make a parent step into the ring or be asked to leave the game. Any arguing after that- You are in the ring. This can be to fight the referee or an opposing parent that has been chirping too much.
 
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outside! said:
Soccer would do well to emulate rugby with regards to sportsmanship and treatment of referees.
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That would require a major mindset change by both players and refs. I watched some of a rugby match the other day and the ref was mic'd up. It was fascinating to hear how the ref was in constant communication with the players. My impression is that rugby refs see themselves as facilitators of the game, whereas soccer refs see themselves as judge of the game. There seems to be a mutual respect in rugby, not so much in soccer.
 
I think there is a lot more going on here than the video shows. At the time the video starts, before the criminal enters the field, there are already two coaches and at least two substitutes from the near side on the field and the center referee already has his red card in the air.
 
espola said:
I think there is a lot more going on here than the video shows. At the time the video starts, before the criminal enters the field, there are already two coaches and at least two substitutes from the near side on the field and the center referee already has his red card in the air.
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I’m sure thee is more to it than the video captured, but I can’t think of anything that would ever justify a parent attacking a referee.

BTW - if I had to guess the player who got the red and was himself looking to attack the referee ( being held back), was the son of the parent that committed the assault. Apple > tree
 
http://www.norcalreferees.com/incidents/edit/j86zvclx112j2/

Here is the incident report. The player confronted the AR over a call. The AR pushed the player away (this was reported in another news story). The center ref went to show a red card to the player. That’s when the guy runs over to push the AR down. Looks like a pretty hard and forceful hit to me.

I like to read the Norcal reports and suspensions every week. Very amusing and also highly disturbing. They have been trying to be extra tough on coaches lately and handing out suspensions for inappropriate behavior. Lots of parents don’t realize Norcal will suspend coaches for failure to control parents.
 
Jar!23 said:
http://www.norcalreferees.com/incidents/edit/j86zvclx112j2/

Here is the incident report. The player confronted the AR over a call. The AR pushed the player away (this was reported in another news story). The center ref went to show a red card to the player. That’s when the guy runs over to push the AR down. Looks like a pretty hard and forceful hit to me.

I like to read the Norcal reports and suspensions every week. Very amusing and also highly disturbing. They have been trying to be extra tough on coaches lately and handing out suspensions for inappropriate behavior. Lots of parents don’t realize Norcal will suspend coaches for failure to control parents.
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Don't know the circumstances but the AR should be suspended as well for pushing the player if there were no extenuating circumstances. Verbal abuse doesn't give the AR the right to touch a minor and he elevated the situation. In this case 3 wrongs don't make a right. The parent should get a permanent suspension.
 
watfly said:
Don't know the circumstances but the AR should be suspended as well for pushing the player if there were no extenuating circumstances. Verbal abuse doesn't give the AR the right to touch a minor and he elevated the situation. In this case 3 wrongs don't make a right. The parent should get a permanent suspension.
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What if the player touched the AR first. How far should an AR back away before protecting their personal space?
 
outside! said:
What if the player touched the AR first. How far should an AR back away before protecting their personal space?
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Still a kid. You’re in front of the coaches. You can easily back up 10-20 feet or more while the coach tries to reign in the player and the center explains what the red card is for.

To watch the video, the teammates tried to do the right thing and keep the offending player out of it.
 
We don’t know what the player did to the AR and how bad the push from the AR was. Player should known better than to confront the ref. All season long we have been hounded by messages from NorCal about ref abuse. The club should have been equally as clear in their communications with coaches, players and parents. Sometimes we only have 1 ref. The ref will make bad calls. The ref will be horrible. That’s just given now and to be expected. It seems though no matter how many times we repeat that, some parents will still scream, yell and have a meltdown on the sidelines.

AR should not have touched the player. The dad definitely should not have reacted the way he did. Parents with anger issues and believe that every little slight requires a reaction need to relax. Some people should really just stay home.
 
Jar!23 said:
We don’t know what the player did to the AR and how bad the push from the AR was. Player should known better than to confront the ref. All season long we have been hounded by messages from NorCal about ref abuse. The club should have been equally as clear in their communications with coaches, players and parents. Sometimes we only have 1 ref. The ref will make bad calls. The ref will be horrible. That’s just given now and to be expected. It seems though no matter how many times we repeat that, some parents will still scream, yell and have a meltdown on the sidelines.

AR should not have touched the player. The dad definitely should not have reacted the way he did. Parents with anger issues and believe that every little slight requires a reaction need to relax. Some people should really just stay home.
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Agree with most of what you say. But unless the AR was exercising self-defense, touching a minor with even a little bit of force is not a "little slight". Agree it doesn't excuse the behavior, but I've seen 4 incidents like this post-COVID now of varying degree of confrontation....they all involve the issue of some sort of physical danger to the player (injury causing tackle, failure to control game, ref getting in a player's face and cursing out player, and this one), not something like a bad off side call. I'm not looking to excuse the behavior, just to explain what usually causes it.
 
Jar!23 said:
https://www.kcra.com/amp/article/ro...XZj1waNKTF2Q3Bw-0DbCyPNF0D8lu0BYZzWqulV4yn8Gg

So embarrassing for the player whose dad causes the team to be kicked out of league for a season. Well since they are high schoolers, they weren’t going to play Spring 2022 anyways.
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my god... he should be banned from the sidelines for 2 years minimum, if not lifetime ban... he certainly doesn't have the mental maturity and could even be abusive to his kids and family if that's how he acts in public...
 
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