2021 Surf Cup

WillJohn

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My picks:

Best of the Best: Surf over Blues / interesting they got 2 teams from the same club in Georgia / teams from all over
Black: going to say Solar just based on name
White: Ole over Liverpool

Some good teams in all divisions and should be some great games.
 
My picks:

Best of the Best: Surf over Blues / interesting they got 2 teams from the same club in Georgia / teams from all over
Black: going to say Solar just based on name
White: Ole over Liverpool

Some good teams in all divisions and should be some great games.
absolute crime that solar isnt in the top bracket. i bet that gets changed. they won premier supercopa over the texans, who was a finalist in last years surf cup. Ole has an argument for top group too. My bets Pleasenton gets swapped with Solar, setting up a Blues/Solar game which will be must watch
 
absolute crime that solar isnt in the top bracket. i bet that gets changed. they won premier supercopa over the texans, who was a finalist in last years surf cup. Ole has an argument for top group too. My bets Pleasenton gets swapped with Solar, setting up a Blues/Solar game which will be must watch

I believe that Solar is the #1 ranked team in the USA based on youth soccer rankings. Winners of Super Copa. They have to be in the best of the best bracket. I’m sure this gets changed. Depending on where they get placed I’m predicting a Blues vs Solar Finals. Surf and Slammers Pa are also a possibility for the finals. Semis. I would expect, Solar, Surf, Blues and Slammers PA in the semis.
 
absolute crime that solar isnt in the top bracket. i bet that gets changed. they won premier supercopa over the texans, who was a finalist in last years surf cup. Ole has an argument for top group too. My bets Pleasenton gets swapped with Solar, setting up a Blues/Solar game which will be must watch

Looking into it further, Solar should definitely be in the top group. They could be the favorite. If not Pleasanton, then the Mustangs should be dropped to Black. They were 0-3 in Manchester and didn't score a goal (albeit against top competition Surf/Eagles/Albion). Also Ole should at least be in the Black group if not in the top group.
 
Solar moved up to the top group which is understandable. But they dropped the Eagles down to the Black which doesn't make sense.
 
Solar moved up to the top group which is understandable. But they dropped the Eagles down to the Black which doesn't make sense.

Most likely due to their poor showing at Man City. Albion is not part of the best of the best anymore either also recall Albion beat Eagles at Man City. Now you can claim they won state cup but the reality is Surf probably does not consider this past state cup as relevant since most teams were not present.
 
Most likely due to their poor showing at Man City. Albion is not part of the best of the best anymore either also recall Albion beat Eagles at Man City. Now you can claim they won state cup but the reality is Surf probably does not consider this past state cup as relevant since most teams were not present.

Good point but that brings up an issue as Danville was in the same group as Eagles and Albion in Man City and lost to both and they are in the Best of the Best while Albion and Eagles are in Black. I'm sure they will be more changes so just fun to speculate.
 
It looks like they have some fine tuning if they were following the National Youth Soccer Rankings information. Here are the brackets as it stands with their current rankings:

Best of the Best
Group A

[68] 10 Juventus Blue (CalNorth) (MVLA)
[16] Marietta 10 Gold (Georgia) (NTH Tophat)
[10] Slammers FC G2010 PA/BL 1 (CalSouth) (Slammers FC)
[724 09] G10 Copa (Washington) (Seattle United )

Group B
[3] San Diego Surf Academy Select G2010 (CalSouth) (San Diego Surf)
[9] OEFC 2010 Girls (Oklahoma) (OEFC)
[132] Mustang 10G Elite (CalNorth) (Mustang Soccer)
[64] Eastside FC G10A (Washington) (Eastside FC)

Group C
[4] SC Blues 2010 Abner (CalSouth) (SC Blues)
[51] Buckhead 10 Gold (Georgia) (NTH Tophat)
[7] Real Colorado National 2010 Girls (Colorado)(Real Colorado)
[45] Spirits 2010 Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (San Juan Soccer Club)

Group D
[5] Solar 10G Colvin (Texas) (Solar Soccer Club )
[30] Heat FC G10 Pre-ECNL (Nevada) (Heat FC)
[140] G10A (Washington)(Crossfire Premier )
[284] RAGE 2010 Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (Pleasanton RAGE)

Super Black
Group A

[unranked] G10 PA/BL 2 (CalSouth)(Slammers FC)
[174] Ajax 2010 Green Girls (CalNorth) (Ajax United)
[85] City SC G2010 Pre Academy - Walker (CalSouth)(City SC)
[349] G2010 - Alukonis (CalSouth)(LA Breakers)

Group B
[unranked] Crossfire United ECNL 2010 (Oregon) (Crossfire United)
[127] West Coast FC G10 Koko (CalSouth) (West Coast FC)
[187] G2010 Elite (CalSouth) (Sand and Surf Soccer Club)
[56] 10G Pre-Girls Academy (CalNorth) (Clovis Crossfire)

Group C
[97] 10G Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (De Anza Force)
[21] Eagles G2010 (CalSouth) (Eagles Soccer Club)
[84] Beach FC SB G2010 Souza (CalSouth) (Beach FC SB)
[716] Rebels G2010 Elite Pre ECNL (CalSouth) (Rebels Soccer Club)

Group D
[170] CDA Slammers FC G10 Pre-ECNL Cruz (CalSouth) (CDA Slammers FC )
[82] MVLA 2010G Juventus Navy (CalNorth) (MVLA)
[32] G2010 Academy (CalSouth) (Albion SC )
[50] LV Surf Select Girls 2010 (Nevada) (Las Vegas Surf Soccer Club)

Super White
Group A

[234] G2010 McCarty Black (CalSouth) (CDA Slammers FC)
[469] Palo Alto SC 10G Blue (CalNorth)(Palo Alto Soccer Club)
[1340] Walnut Creek Surf 10G Blue 1 (CalNorth) (Walnut Creek Surf Soccer Club)
[290] East County Surf G2010 Academy I (CalSouth) (East County Surf)

Group B
[293] Legends FC TV G2010 (CalSouth) (Legends FC Temecula Valley)
[822] SD Surf G2010 Academy Davis (CalSouth) (San Diego Surf )
[34] Olé SC G2010 Red (CalSouth) (Olé Soccer Club)
[72] G10 Harrison (CalSouth) (LFCIA SoCal)

Group C
[411] San Diego Force FC G2010 (CalSouth) (San Diego Force FC)
[518] Santa Clara Sporting 10G Green (CalNorth) (Santa Clara Sporting)
[401] TFA-OC G2010 Mora (CalSouth) (Total Futbol Academy - OC)
[810] SD Surf 2010 Academy Girls (CalSouth)(San Diego Surf)
 
Based off YSR, this is how the groups and bracket should look like:

Best of the Best
Group A

[3] San Diego Surf Academy Select G2010 (CalSouth) (San Diego Surf)
[21] Eagles G2010 (CalSouth) (Eagles Soccer Club)
[45] Spirits 2010 Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (San Juan Soccer Club)
[64] Eastside FC G10A (Washington) (Eastside FC)

Group B
[7] Real Colorado National 2010 Girls (Colorado)(Real Colorado)
[10] Slammers FC G2010 PA/BL 1 (CalSouth) (Slammers FC)
[30] Heat FC G10 Pre-ECNL (Nevada) (Heat FC)
[50] LV Surf Select Girls 2010 (Nevada) (Las Vegas Surf Soccer Club)

Group C
[5] Solar 10G Colvin (Texas) (Solar Soccer Club )
[9] OEFC 2010 Girls (Oklahoma) (OEFC)
[32] G2010 Academy (CalSouth) (Albion SC )
[51] Buckhead 10 Gold (Georgia) (NTH Tophat)


Group D
[4] SC Blues 2010 Abner (CalSouth) (SC Blues)
[16] Marietta 10 Gold (Georgia) (NTH Tophat)
[34] Olé SC G2010 Red (CalSouth) (Olé Soccer Club)
[56] 10G Pre-Girls Academy (CalNorth) (Clovis Crossfire)


Super Black
Group A

[68] 10 Juventus Blue (CalNorth) (MVLA)
[127] West Coast FC G10 Koko (CalSouth) (West Coast FC)
[187] G2010 Elite (CalSouth) (Sand and Surf Soccer Club)
[284] RAGE 2010 Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (Pleasanton RAGE)

Group B
[84] Beach FC SB G2010 Souza (CalSouth) (Beach FC SB)
[132] Mustang 10G Elite (CalNorth) (Mustang Soccer)
[170] CDA Slammers FC G10 Pre-ECNL Cruz (CalSouth) (CDA Slammers FC )
[293] Legends FC TV G2010 (CalSouth) (Legends FC Temecula Valley)

Group C
[82] MVLA 2010G Juventus Navy (CalNorth) (MVLA)
[85] City SC G2010 Pre Academy - Walker (CalSouth)(City SC)
[140] G10A (Washington)(Crossfire Premier )
[234] G2010 McCarty Black (CalSouth) (CDA Slammers FC)

Group D
[72] G10 Harrison (CalSouth) (LFCIA SoCal)
[97] 10G Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (De Anza Force)
[174] Ajax 2010 Green Girls (CalNorth) (Ajax United)
[290] East County Surf G2010 Academy I (CalSouth) (East County Surf)

Super White
Group A

[unranked] G10 PA/BL 2 (CalSouth)(Slammers FC)
[401] TFA-OC G2010 Mora (CalSouth) (Total Futbol Academy - OC)
[724 09] G10 Copa (Washington) (Seattle United )
[1340] Walnut Creek Surf 10G Blue 1 (CalNorth) (Walnut Creek Surf Soccer Club)

Group B
[349] G2010 - Alukonis (CalSouth)(LA Breakers)
[469] Palo Alto SC 10G Blue (CalNorth)(Palo Alto Soccer Club)
[716] Rebels G2010 Elite Pre ECNL (CalSouth) (Rebels Soccer Club)
[822] SD Surf G2010 Academy Davis (CalSouth) (San Diego Surf )

Group C
[411] San Diego Force FC G2010 (CalSouth) (San Diego Force FC)
[518] Santa Clara Sporting 10G Green (CalNorth) (Santa Clara Sporting)
[810] SD Surf 2010 Academy Girls (CalSouth)(San Diego Surf)
[unranked] Crossfire United ECNL 2010 (Oregon) (Crossfire United)
 
Good point but that brings up an issue as Danville was in the same group as Eagles and Albion in Man City and lost to both and they are in the Best of the Best while Albion and Eagles are in Black. I'm sure they will be more changes so just fun to speculate.
I suspect it‘s just harder to make the top bracket as a socal team. But something is wrong when norcal has four teams and socal only has three. (Rage, but no Eagles????)

I know we’re better than you guys on a karmic and spiritual level. But there is no way we have more top soccer teams than you do.
 
Based off YSR, this is how the groups and bracket should look like:

Best of the Best
Group A

[3] San Diego Surf Academy Select G2010 (CalSouth) (San Diego Surf)
[21] Eagles G2010 (CalSouth) (Eagles Soccer Club)
[45] Spirits 2010 Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (San Juan Soccer Club)
[64] Eastside FC G10A (Washington) (Eastside FC)

Group B
[7] Real Colorado National 2010 Girls (Colorado)(Real Colorado)
[10] Slammers FC G2010 PA/BL 1 (CalSouth) (Slammers FC)
[30] Heat FC G10 Pre-ECNL (Nevada) (Heat FC)
[50] LV Surf Select Girls 2010 (Nevada) (Las Vegas Surf Soccer Club)

Group C
[5] Solar 10G Colvin (Texas) (Solar Soccer Club )
[9] OEFC 2010 Girls (Oklahoma) (OEFC)
[32] G2010 Academy (CalSouth) (Albion SC )
[51] Buckhead 10 Gold (Georgia) (NTH Tophat)


Group D
[4] SC Blues 2010 Abner (CalSouth) (SC Blues)
[16] Marietta 10 Gold (Georgia) (NTH Tophat)
[34] Olé SC G2010 Red (CalSouth) (Olé Soccer Club)
[56] 10G Pre-Girls Academy (CalNorth) (Clovis Crossfire)


Super Black
Group A

[68] 10 Juventus Blue (CalNorth) (MVLA)
[127] West Coast FC G10 Koko (CalSouth) (West Coast FC)
[187] G2010 Elite (CalSouth) (Sand and Surf Soccer Club)
[284] RAGE 2010 Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (Pleasanton RAGE)

Group B
[84] Beach FC SB G2010 Souza (CalSouth) (Beach FC SB)
[132] Mustang 10G Elite (CalNorth) (Mustang Soccer)
[170] CDA Slammers FC G10 Pre-ECNL Cruz (CalSouth) (CDA Slammers FC )
[293] Legends FC TV G2010 (CalSouth) (Legends FC Temecula Valley)

Group C
[82] MVLA 2010G Juventus Navy (CalNorth) (MVLA)
[85] City SC G2010 Pre Academy - Walker (CalSouth)(City SC)
[140] G10A (Washington)(Crossfire Premier )
[234] G2010 McCarty Black (CalSouth) (CDA Slammers FC)

Group D
[72] G10 Harrison (CalSouth) (LFCIA SoCal)
[97] 10G Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (De Anza Force)
[174] Ajax 2010 Green Girls (CalNorth) (Ajax United)
[290] East County Surf G2010 Academy I (CalSouth) (East County Surf)

Super White
Group A

[unranked] G10 PA/BL 2 (CalSouth)(Slammers FC)
[401] TFA-OC G2010 Mora (CalSouth) (Total Futbol Academy - OC)
[724 09] G10 Copa (Washington) (Seattle United )
[1340] Walnut Creek Surf 10G Blue 1 (CalNorth) (Walnut Creek Surf Soccer Club)

Group B
[349] G2010 - Alukonis (CalSouth)(LA Breakers)
[469] Palo Alto SC 10G Blue (CalNorth)(Palo Alto Soccer Club)
[716] Rebels G2010 Elite Pre ECNL (CalSouth) (Rebels Soccer Club)
[822] SD Surf G2010 Academy Davis (CalSouth) (San Diego Surf )

Group C
[411] San Diego Force FC G2010 (CalSouth) (San Diego Force FC)
[518] Santa Clara Sporting 10G Green (CalNorth) (Santa Clara Sporting)
[810] SD Surf 2010 Academy Girls (CalSouth)(San Diego Surf)
[unranked] Crossfire United ECNL 2010 (Oregon) (Crossfire United)
Don’t trust YSR without looking at level of play- especially for out of area clubs. YSR rewards blowouts. If a team plays weak opponents, their YSR ranking goes up.

Strong teams in weak regions often end up with unreasonably high YSR rankings until they start playing up.
 
Don’t trust YSR without looking at level of play- especially for out of area clubs. YSR rewards blowouts. If a team plays weak opponents, their YSR ranking goes up.

Strong teams in weak regions often end up with unreasonably high YSR rankings until they start playing up.
If anything, there should be more California teams in the best of the best, and some of the out of state teams need to be kicked down to a lower bracket. The way they’re lined up now, it’s kind of silly to see Ole, Eagles and Albion not be in the best of the best considering the level of opponents they’re playing against regularly.
 
Based off YSR, this is how the groups and bracket should look like:

Best of the Best
Group A

[3] San Diego Surf Academy Select G2010 (CalSouth) (San Diego Surf)
[21] Eagles G2010 (CalSouth) (Eagles Soccer Club)
[45] Spirits 2010 Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (San Juan Soccer Club)
[64] Eastside FC G10A (Washington) (Eastside FC)

Group B
[7] Real Colorado National 2010 Girls (Colorado)(Real Colorado)
[10] Slammers FC G2010 PA/BL 1 (CalSouth) (Slammers FC)
[30] Heat FC G10 Pre-ECNL (Nevada) (Heat FC)
[50] LV Surf Select Girls 2010 (Nevada) (Las Vegas Surf Soccer Club)

Group C
[5] Solar 10G Colvin (Texas) (Solar Soccer Club )
[9] OEFC 2010 Girls (Oklahoma) (OEFC)
[32] G2010 Academy (CalSouth) (Albion SC )
[51] Buckhead 10 Gold (Georgia) (NTH Tophat)


Group D
[4] SC Blues 2010 Abner (CalSouth) (SC Blues)
[16] Marietta 10 Gold (Georgia) (NTH Tophat)
[34] Olé SC G2010 Red (CalSouth) (Olé Soccer Club)
[56] 10G Pre-Girls Academy (CalNorth) (Clovis Crossfire)


Super Black
Group A

[68] 10 Juventus Blue (CalNorth) (MVLA)
[127] West Coast FC G10 Koko (CalSouth) (West Coast FC)
[187] G2010 Elite (CalSouth) (Sand and Surf Soccer Club)
[284] RAGE 2010 Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (Pleasanton RAGE)

Group B
[84] Beach FC SB G2010 Souza (CalSouth) (Beach FC SB)
[132] Mustang 10G Elite (CalNorth) (Mustang Soccer)
[170] CDA Slammers FC G10 Pre-ECNL Cruz (CalSouth) (CDA Slammers FC )
[293] Legends FC TV G2010 (CalSouth) (Legends FC Temecula Valley)

Group C
[82] MVLA 2010G Juventus Navy (CalNorth) (MVLA)
[85] City SC G2010 Pre Academy - Walker (CalSouth)(City SC)
[140] G10A (Washington)(Crossfire Premier )
[234] G2010 McCarty Black (CalSouth) (CDA Slammers FC)

Group D
[72] G10 Harrison (CalSouth) (LFCIA SoCal)
[97] 10G Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (De Anza Force)
[174] Ajax 2010 Green Girls (CalNorth) (Ajax United)
[290] East County Surf G2010 Academy I (CalSouth) (East County Surf)

Super White
Group A

[unranked] G10 PA/BL 2 (CalSouth)(Slammers FC)
[401] TFA-OC G2010 Mora (CalSouth) (Total Futbol Academy - OC)
[724 09] G10 Copa (Washington) (Seattle United )
[1340] Walnut Creek Surf 10G Blue 1 (CalNorth) (Walnut Creek Surf Soccer Club)

Group B
[349] G2010 - Alukonis (CalSouth)(LA Breakers)
[469] Palo Alto SC 10G Blue (CalNorth)(Palo Alto Soccer Club)
[716] Rebels G2010 Elite Pre ECNL (CalSouth) (Rebels Soccer Club)
[822] SD Surf G2010 Academy Davis (CalSouth) (San Diego Surf )

Group C
[411] San Diego Force FC G2010 (CalSouth) (San Diego Force FC)
[518] Santa Clara Sporting 10G Green (CalNorth) (Santa Clara Sporting)
[810] SD Surf 2010 Academy Girls (CalSouth)(San Diego Surf)
[unranked] Crossfire United ECNL 2010 (Oregon) (Crossfire United)
Good work! Love this breakdown!!!
 
It looks like they have some fine tuning if they were following the National Youth Soccer Rankings information. Here are the brackets as it stands with their current rankings:

Best of the Best
Group A

[68] 10 Juventus Blue (CalNorth) (MVLA)
[16] Marietta 10 Gold (Georgia) (NTH Tophat)
[10] Slammers FC G2010 PA/BL 1 (CalSouth) (Slammers FC)
[724 09] G10 Copa (Washington) (Seattle United )

Group B
[3] San Diego Surf Academy Select G2010 (CalSouth) (San Diego Surf)
[9] OEFC 2010 Girls (Oklahoma) (OEFC)
[132] Mustang 10G Elite (CalNorth) (Mustang Soccer)
[64] Eastside FC G10A (Washington) (Eastside FC)

Group C
[4] SC Blues 2010 Abner (CalSouth) (SC Blues)
[51] Buckhead 10 Gold (Georgia) (NTH Tophat)
[7] Real Colorado National 2010 Girls (Colorado)(Real Colorado)
[45] Spirits 2010 Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (San Juan Soccer Club)

Group D
[5] Solar 10G Colvin (Texas) (Solar Soccer Club )
[30] Heat FC G10 Pre-ECNL (Nevada) (Heat FC)
[140] G10A (Washington)(Crossfire Premier )
[284] RAGE 2010 Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (Pleasanton RAGE)

Super Black
Group A

[unranked] G10 PA/BL 2 (CalSouth)(Slammers FC)
[174] Ajax 2010 Green Girls (CalNorth) (Ajax United)
[85] City SC G2010 Pre Academy - Walker (CalSouth)(City SC)
[349] G2010 - Alukonis (CalSouth)(LA Breakers)

Group B
[unranked] Crossfire United ECNL 2010 (Oregon) (Crossfire United)
[127] West Coast FC G10 Koko (CalSouth) (West Coast FC)
[187] G2010 Elite (CalSouth) (Sand and Surf Soccer Club)
[56] 10G Pre-Girls Academy (CalNorth) (Clovis Crossfire)

Group C
[97] 10G Pre-ECNL (CalNorth) (De Anza Force)
[21] Eagles G2010 (CalSouth) (Eagles Soccer Club)
[84] Beach FC SB G2010 Souza (CalSouth) (Beach FC SB)
[716] Rebels G2010 Elite Pre ECNL (CalSouth) (Rebels Soccer Club)

Group D
[170] CDA Slammers FC G10 Pre-ECNL Cruz (CalSouth) (CDA Slammers FC )
[82] MVLA 2010G Juventus Navy (CalNorth) (MVLA)
[32] G2010 Academy (CalSouth) (Albion SC )
[50] LV Surf Select Girls 2010 (Nevada) (Las Vegas Surf Soccer Club)

Super White
Group A

[234] G2010 McCarty Black (CalSouth) (CDA Slammers FC)
[469] Palo Alto SC 10G Blue (CalNorth)(Palo Alto Soccer Club)
[1340] Walnut Creek Surf 10G Blue 1 (CalNorth) (Walnut Creek Surf Soccer Club)
[290] East County Surf G2010 Academy I (CalSouth) (East County Surf)

Group B
[293] Legends FC TV G2010 (CalSouth) (Legends FC Temecula Valley)
[822] SD Surf G2010 Academy Davis (CalSouth) (San Diego Surf )
[34] Olé SC G2010 Red (CalSouth) (Olé Soccer Club)
[72] G10 Harrison (CalSouth) (LFCIA SoCal)

Group C
[411] San Diego Force FC G2010 (CalSouth) (San Diego Force FC)
[518] Santa Clara Sporting 10G Green (CalNorth) (Santa Clara Sporting)
[401] TFA-OC G2010 Mora (CalSouth) (Total Futbol Academy - OC)
[810] SD Surf 2010 Academy Girls (CalSouth)(San Diego Surf)
Best of the Best
Group A: Tophat
Group B: Surf
Group C: Blues
Group D: Solar
Semifinal: Solar over Tophat
Semifinal: Surf over Blues
Final: Surf over Solar

Super Black
Group A: Ajax United
Group B: Clovis Crossfire
Group C: Eagles
Group D: Albion
Semifinal: Albion over Ajax
Semifinal: Eagles over Clovis
Final: Eagles over Albion

Super White
Group A: Slammers
Group B: Ole
Group C: Santa Clara Sorting
Wild Card: San Diego Force
Semi Final: Slammers over Force
Semi Final: Ole over Santa Clara
Final: Ole over Slammers
 
Best of the Best
Group A: Tophat
Group B: Surf
Group C: Blues
Group D: Solar
Semifinal: Solar over Tophat
Semifinal: Surf over Blues
Final: Surf over Solar

Super Black
Group A: Ajax United
Group B: Clovis Crossfire
Group C: Eagles
Group D: Albion
Semifinal: Albion over Ajax
Semifinal: Eagles over Clovis
Final: Eagles over Albion

Super White
Group A: Slammers
Group B: Ole
Group C: Santa Clara Sorting
Wild Card: San Diego Force
Semi Final: Slammers over Force
Semi Final: Ole over Santa Clara
Final: Ole over Slammers
I detect a slight socal bias in your predictions….

I’ll take TopHat, Oklahoma, RealCO, and Solar. :p

Solar over CO in the final.

Have fun this weekend.
 
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