US pretty much avoided a Christmas surge.....
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Fair. My point is that Trump is selling a proto-populism. If someone hits on full populism, the US would be ripe for it (which in its darker forms turns into Peronism or Mussolini type fascism).
Trumpism is a cult of personality, for example --
Allegan County GOP censures Upton over impeachment vote
The Allegan County Republican Party has censured longtime U.S. Rep. Fred Upton and "condemned" his vote to impeach...
www.hollandsentinel.com
Yup. That’s always been a limitation in populism. Jackson Peron Franco. Rarely have movements been able to transfer to successors.Trumpism is a cult of personality, for example --
Allegan County GOP censures Upton over impeachment vote
The Allegan County Republican Party has censured longtime U.S. Rep. Fred Upton and "condemned" his vote to impeach...www.hollandsentinel.com
Franco was a populist?
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Trumpism is predicated by the Donald’s mood and what he feels will favor him at any given moment. Well did, he’s gone now.
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Populism is just telling people what they want to hear, trump’s forte.
depends on the definition but basic fascism(as opposed to nazi ideology which is based much more on racial identity) can be an extreme offshoot of populism. See Huskers definition for example. Why so many libs ran around yelling trumps a fascist. And no he’s not gone totally. At a minimum he’ll be trolling the ds for 4 years like he did thanks to the boneheaded treatment of the guard. Continuing the impeachment will only ensure that.
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Don't public schools and their teachers have enough power as it is? There's little about how education in the largest districts was handled during this pandemic that makes me think it's a good idea to have more public school employees.
NONSENSE.
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Isn't this good news?
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Historian: Today’s Authoritarian Leaders Aren’t Fascists—But They Are Part of the Same Story
"There are historical precedents for what we're living through," argues Ruth Ben-Ghiat
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And they take a thinly veiled shot at the education level of Californians. You can't make this up.
CHHS spokeswoman Kate Folmar said projected ICU capacity is based on multiple variables, including available beds and staffing. "These fluid, on-the-ground conditions cannot be boiled down to a single data point — and to do so would mislead and create greater uncertainty for Californians," she said in a statement.
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California ignores public records request, keeps coronavirus data hidden
www.foxnews.com
CHHS spokeswoman Kate Folmar said projected ICU capacity is based on multiple variables, including available beds and staffing. "These fluid, on-the-ground conditions cannot be boiled down to a single data point — and to do so would mislead and create greater uncertainty for Californians," she said in a statement.
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California ignores public records request, keeps coronavirus data hidden
California ignores public records request, keeps coronavirus data hidden
Gov. Gavin Newsom, despite months-long promises of transparency in his coronavirus decisions, has been keeping secret the data his administration is using to drive state-implemented lockdowns.
www.foxnews.com
"You've done it again, espola!"
thats sometimes the first lesson of the first day in law school (if they aren’t doing the hairy hand). Don’t you remember Clinton and it depends on what the meaning of the word is is?
You're babbling.
Franco was a military dictator who came to power by overthrowing a popularly-elected government, and who maintained power by oppression of popular dissent.
Put that in your definition.
You are confused again
I haven’t put forth a definition.Husker did. You think you are arguing with me but you are really arguing with Husker
this thread began though with populism combines left wing economics with right wing societal policies and law and order. Franco nationalized industries, establish a high minimum wage, education guarantees and employment guarantees and pushed for a policy of self reliance similar to North Korea while at the same time establishing a police state and emphasizing catholic morality. Where I agree with you is that I think fascism is more ideologically organized and less democratic than populism. The Wikipedia article has some good discussion of the variations in populism depending on the definition. My proposition was the same tendencies exist and fascism is just populism on steroids mixed in with some totalitarian seasoning. Huskers definition is much broader
ps who else thinks it’s funny I’m saying trumpism has some things in common with fascism and Espola is defending Trump?
I asked specifically if Franco was a populist. "depends on the definition..." was your response.
pps -- no one.
Not sure about your neck of the woods, but our schools have 25-30 kids per class in elementary school. It's pretty nutty. If covid forces this to go down to 15 for social distancing, maybe this could just become the norm going forward. Considering we're in the 40s by state in spending per pupil, maybe there could be a shift here. Smaller classroom sizes is just a piece of this. Anyway, one could hope.