LA County latest measures

Japan’s problem is multifaceted and Covid is only part of the issue.

The narratives of both are talking points not journalism...designed to ... influence, co opt, or deceive. Fox’s piece is chum for the rubes... CNN is trying not to be chum but it is...A terrible story poorly sourced and executed.

And people fall for these stories and say well look at them...At least we don’t have that problem.. Projection ....always projecting !
So is your official stance that these lockdowns are Not having a negative psychological impact on our children?
 
So is your official stance that these lockdowns are Not having a negative psychological impact on our children?
Are we really in lockdown?

A real lockdown ... like the one in Wuhan ... they were chaining doors to apartments.

We have what we have... Sorry about the Cheesecake Factory being closed.

Kids are outside but the risk is tangible and you can’t deny that.

I pray it doesn’t get worse!
 
Japan’s problem is multifaceted and Covid is only part of the issue.

The narratives of both talking points are not journalism...designed to ... influence, co opt, or deceive. Fox’s piece is chum for the rubes... CNN is trying not to be chum but it is...A terrible story poorly sourced and executed.

And people fall for these stories and say well look at them...At least we don’t have that problem.. Projection ....always projecting !
It is a rising statistic in the US this year, especially among teens. Not to mention ODs. No doubt in my mind what a major contributor has been.
 
Are we really in lockdown?

A real lockdown ... like the one in Wuhan ... they were chaining doors to apartments.

We have what we have... Sorry about the Cheesecake Factory being closed.

Kids are outside but the risk is tangible and you can’t deny that.

I pray it doesn’t get worse!
You must not know parents who have not allowed their children to go anywhere or interact with other children.
 
What does Japan’s suicide rate have to do with Club soccer? Nothing!

This type of False Consciousness is dangerous.. it belittles the real problem that a communicable disease is running rampant in this country and people who call themselves adults are making jibes and playing games with people lives...

Fox News talking points using false consciousness techniques don’t help control Covid and open businesses back up!
How is it false consciousness?
 
Japan’s problem is multifaceted and Covid is only part of the issue.

The narratives of both talking points are not journalism...designed to ... influence, co opt, or deceive. Fox’s piece is chum for the rubes... CNN is trying not to be chum but it is...A terrible story poorly sourced and executed.

And people fall for these stories and say well look at them...At least we don’t have that problem.. Projection ....always projecting !
huh?
 
Are we really in lockdown?

A real lockdown ... like the one in Wuhan ... they were chaining doors to apartments.

We have what we have... Sorry about the Cheesecake Factory being closed.

Kids are outside but the risk is tangible and you can’t deny that.

I pray it doesn’t get worse!

Using the word lockdown to characterize what happened in Wuhan is silly. Those people were subjugated. Not allowing a business owner to operate their business is a lockdown. Instituting measures that limit your movement to and from certain areas is a lockdown. Denying health children access to school = lockdown.

Being welded shut into your home = subjugation.
 
Are we really in lockdown?

A real lockdown ... like the one in Wuhan ... they were chaining doors to apartments.

We have what we have... Sorry about the Cheesecake Factory being closed.

Kids are outside but the risk is tangible and you can’t deny that.

I pray it doesn’t get worse!
You didn’t answer the question.

Outdoor dining was completely acceptable.

Key indicators are better today than they were in late July early August.

Kids may be outside but lack a lot extra cuticular activities and social interaction that things like in person schooling provide. Not to mention the many single parents, dual working households and sadly the many unemployed households all trying to navigate this and the stress that comes along with it all. You can’t deny that either.

You once argued that, “ ... kids do not die “as much” as older adults.

So in “your world” a kid can get infected and survive.

The kid gets it and will give it to the parents and siblings they must live with... How many parents or grand parents in your view is acceptable for that kid to lose? 1 or 2.”

We know know the risk to kids is zero. It’s not a death sentence to grandparents (my 79 yr old Mother-in-law was virtually Asymptomatic), so I’ll ask you.....how many grandkids is it acceptable to loose by being hyper cautious?
 
Japan has had this problem for a longer time than the pandemic!


American media particularly the Fox story using it as a Covid talking point is disingenuous. You using it in a Club soccer form about LA county’s response is dubious at best.

LA county has done an excellent job trying to keep our kids safe...We don’t need a Fox false consciousness talking point about another countries internal problem mucking it up. Using media to influence the “rubes” and giving them justification for forgoing the protections is not SAD...it’s disgusting.



Oh good. Now that we are in the off topic forum. La county is one of the worst counties in the nation. None of its measures have accomplished anything— being perpetually purple. It has actively engaged in harming children by keeping them out of school despite all the science that says they are not only low risk to themselves but also to others. Even idiot Fauci now has been backpedaling and says schools should be opened. It closed outdoor dining despite admitting there’s no scientific evidence for spread outdoors. And now the stupid supervisor has been caught dining outside despite saying outdoor dining is dangerous. And now it’s stupid stay at home order has so many holes in it it is idiotically trying to regulate the 1 thing they can’t control: private gatherings. La more than anywhere else has handled this ridiculously.
 
Oh good. Now that we are in the off topic forum. La county is one of the worst counties in the nation. None of its measures have accomplished anything— being perpetually purple. It has actively engaged in harming children by keeping them out of school despite all the science that says they are not only low risk to themselves but also to others. Even idiot Fauci now has been backpedaling and says schools should be opened. It closed outdoor dining despite admitting there’s no scientific evidence for spread outdoors. And now the stupid supervisor has been caught dining outside despite saying outdoor dining is dangerous. And now it’s stupid stay at home order has so many holes in it it is idiotically trying to regulate the 1 thing they can’t control: private gatherings. La more than anywhere else has handled this ridiculously.
One more question you may have the answer to, our Governor says you must quarantine if you’ve traveled out of state, but I have yet to hear anything about crossing the border. Is there any measure in place for people crossing back and forth into Mexico?

Truly curious.....
 
One more question you may have the answer to, our Governor says you must quarantine if you’ve traveled out of state, but I have yet to hear anything about crossing the border. Is there any measure in place for people crossing back and forth into Mexico?

Truly curious.....
And to add to the idiocy. They/he wants you to quarantine if for instance you go from SF to PHX. But if you take a quick trip from SF to LA, we are all good.

None of it makes sense.
 
One more question you may have the answer to, our Governor says you must quarantine if you’ve traveled out of state, but I have yet to hear anything about crossing the border. Is there any measure in place for people crossing back and forth into Mexico?

Truly curious.....
Hey don't bring that up , I am constantly crossing the border for my job visiting factories this whole year.
 
One more question you may have the answer to, our Governor says you must quarantine if you’ve traveled out of state, but I have yet to hear anything about crossing the border. Is there any measure in place for people crossing back and forth into Mexico?

Truly curious.....
seems kind of clear that Mexico is not part of California, and therefore counts as put of state travel.

It really ought to apply to Indian casinos as well. If they are foreign nations for purposes of public health laws, then people need to quarantine as though they visited any other foreign nation.
 
seems kind of clear that Mexico is not part of California, and therefore counts as put of state travel.

It really ought to apply to Indian casinos as well. If they are foreign nations for purposes of public health laws, then people need to quarantine as though they visited any other foreign nation.
But have you heard Newsome even mention it? Seems like out of country would be easier to enforce than out of state and I would suffice to say it affects SoCal more than Norcal.
 
And to add to the idiocy. They/he wants you to quarantine if for instance you go from SF to PHX. But if you take a quick trip from SF to LA, we are all good.

None of it makes sense.
SJ wants you to quarantine no matter where you went. That makes sense. Other than the brain dead move to open restaurants, SJ has handled it pretty well.

Unlike, say, Arizona. There is a reason Arizona has almost twice as many deaths per capita as CA, and four times as many as SJ or SF.
 
seems kind of clear that Mexico is not part of California, and therefore counts as put of state travel.

It really ought to apply to Indian casinos as well. If they are foreign nations for purposes of public health laws, then people need to quarantine as though they visited any other foreign nation.

the language is clear the 14 day quarantine applies to other countries. The issue is the quarantine doesn’t apply if you traveled for essential travel. Because if you are crossing for nonessential (sports) the virus is dangerous but if you cross for essential (work) the virus knows not to attack you and you won’t be a spreader. Science!!!
 
But have you heard Newsome even mention it? Seems like out of country would be easier to enforce than out of state and I would suffice to say it affects SoCal more than Norcal.
I haven’t heard him mention either Mexico or tribal lands. Agree it would be nice if he’d deal with it.

But mostly it seems that our problem is internal. Other than Imperial, I don’t think any county has enough cross border traffic to account for more than a fraction of cases.
 
the language is clear the 14 day quarantine applies to other countries. The issue is the quarantine doesn’t apply if you traveled for essential travel. Because if you are crossing for nonessential (sports) the virus is dangerous but if you cross for essential (work) the virus knows not to attack you and you won’t be a spreader. Science!!!
No. Some things are important enough to be worth the risk. Some are not.

The risk is exactly the same. But your activity is just not that important, so you don’t get to do it without quarantining.
 
I haven’t heard him mention either Mexico or tribal lands. Agree it would be nice if he’d deal with it.

But mostly it seems that our problem is internal. Other than Imperial, I don’t think any county has enough cross border traffic to account for more than a fraction of cases.
San Diego has more border crossing than Imperial county, You have SanYsidro , Otay Mesa and the CBX terminal for Tijuana Airport.
Only U.S. citizens and legal residents are allowed to cross as I understand
 
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