ECNL Refunds

I would be absolutely shocked if there were any refunds for the 2019-20 season. How about the clubs' plans for adjusting fees for the delayed/maybe-wont-happen 2020-21 season? It's "reserve your spot for next year" time. I'm curious to hear what the clubs are saying.
 
I would be absolutely shocked if there were any refunds for the 2019-20 season. How about the clubs' plans for adjusting fees for the delayed/maybe-wont-happen 2020-21 season? It's "reserve your spot for next year" time. I'm curious to hear what the clubs are saying.
Let me tell you from my own experience @myself. Our club gave over 30% back to my family, which I was very grateful for because we were all in and paid in full for a discount a year ago. I will do it again because I love my dd coach and he's been there every week teaching the players and helping them through all this. I told them to hold the refund for our deposit for next year's 2020-2021 season and to reserve my dd seat at the table ((ECNL U17 SW Conference-Bad Ass League)). We also have no idea who will be on the team except her friend from HS. We only care about who da coach will be and that is 100% the truth. We shall find out some day but were just grateful we got invited to next years team. We don;t know what will happen tomorrow and I refuse to let my brain ((heart or mind)) take me past today. I swear I just learned this trick a few weeks ago after 53 years thinking about what the future holds for me. You have to realize when one is deaf when born and has to learn to speak and has a speech.............................well, you know the story, all one has to think about is, "oh sh*t, I have to read out loud.....oh oh!!!" Then a mean kid will laugh and tell me that I'm stupid and dam fool. It all depends what tomorrow brings and thank God no one knows what tomorrow will be like. Peace. I hope this helps you with your curiosity questions :)
 
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No refunds for base tuition. Money spent to keep coaches employed and other fixed costs/commitments of the club. You either get the refund and the club might fall apart or you eat it and keep the club and coaches together. Most of these clubs have pretty shallow pockets and not too much in reserves. Depending on where you play, league, etc. keeping the club and coaches intact may carry a different level of importance to you. Some may care a lot, some not at all, and everywhere in between. Personally, I felt our DD’s club did the best they could during these crazy times and we like our kids coach. No blueprint and everyone just trying to do their best. I feel they would have refunded if they could have. They did refund prepaid travel for the out-of-town showcase that was canceled.
 
No refunds for base tuition. Money spent to keep coaches employed and other fixed costs/commitments of the club. You either get the refund and the club might fall apart or you eat it and keep the club and coaches together. Most of these clubs have pretty shallow pockets and not too much in reserves. Depending on where you play, league, etc. keeping the club and coaches intact may carry a different level of importance to you. Some may care a lot, some not at all, and everywhere in between. Personally, I felt our DD’s club did the best they could during these crazy times and we like our kids coach. No blueprint and everyone just trying to do their best. I feel they would have refunded if they could have. They did refund prepaid travel for the out-of-town showcase that was canceled.

Same, obviously...... clubs like many small businesses weren't prepared for Covid...... only the likes of Amazon have enjoyed this period..... my DD just wants her soccer team back together sometime soon.....
 
I would be absolutely shocked if there were any refunds for the 2019-20 season. How about the clubs' plans for adjusting fees for the delayed/maybe-wont-happen 2020-21 season? It's "reserve your spot for next year" time. I'm curious to hear what the clubs are saying.
Are clubs charging registration fees ? Does anyone know and what clubs aren’t charging fees for registration yet ?
 
I dont think refunds are happening Clubs are desperate.......

Especially with LA Surf, They keep charging and keep promising games. They keep saying there will be a season but no schedule has been announced. Coaches, Staff all of them have no shame and tell everyone what they want to hear. They should just be straight up and say there wont be a season. They are full of desperation right now and are squeezing out all they can from Parents. Shameful and sad.
 
Especially with LA Surf, They keep charging and keep promising games. They keep saying there will be a season but no schedule has been announced. Coaches, Staff all of them have no shame and tell everyone what they want to hear. They should just be straight up and say there wont be a season. They are full of desperation right now and are squeezing out all they can from Parents. Shameful and sad.
That sucks. I can;t speak for that club but I would imagine all socal clubs are in a tough spot. I think shortly we will all know are fate. I cant afford to pluck money down on hope and maybe. Hang in there man, this soon shall pass :)
 
Especially with LA Surf, They keep charging and keep promising games. They keep saying there will be a season but no schedule has been announced. Coaches, Staff all of them have no shame and tell everyone what they want to hear. They should just be straight up and say there wont be a season. They are full of desperation right now and are squeezing out all they can from Parents. Shameful and sad.
sounds about right - not surprising. I doubt clubs had a rainy day account for something like this.
 
Especially with LA Surf, They keep charging and keep promising games. They keep saying there will be a season but no schedule has been announced. Coaches, Staff all of them have no shame and tell everyone what they want to hear. They should just be straight up and say there wont be a season. They are full of desperation right now and are squeezing out all they can from Parents. Shameful and sad.
Although there are some coaches/administrators/parents that will do as you say above, the majority is as hopeful and able to predict the future as the rest of us. No one has experienced this and everyone is in this together. The club administrators and coaches want teams to be out playing as much as we want our kids to be out there and just like us, they don't have a car to blast into the the future and come back with this information. Although, it would be nice to have one of those cars but I would probably use it for lotto numbers and forget about league start days.
 
Although there are some coaches/administrators/parents that will do as you say above, the majority is as hopeful and able to predict the future as the rest of us. No one has experienced this and everyone is in this together. The club administrators and coaches want teams to be out playing as much as we want our kids to be out there and just like us, they don't have a car to blast into the the future and come back with this information. Although, it would be nice to have one of those cars but I would probably use it for lotto numbers and forget about league start days.
Yupp! Lotto numbers for me too! All the rest will magically disappear once those numbers are in my hands. Oh and that reminds me, I have to buy my Lotto tickets!! Always staying hopeful and looking forward to some games. May not be this year but it will happen soon enough.
 
As non profit, clubs should explain how the fees were used this year and refund any remaining. I am sure no one would complain about coaching fees, light fees, general admin fees. If money was used then parents will gladly pay. Parents I am sure are wondering about fees that should be refunded due to cancelled leagues and touenaments.

What would be interesting is to see if any of these clubs had a big portion sucked up by "admin fees".
 
Some clubs have stopped paying coaches. At least the ones they know they can replace. Unfortunately fine print might allow them not to refund anything. Not good as far as customer service goes, but most clubs are arrogant and feel the kids/parents will always be around. Some clubs just trying to get to the survive until the next pay cycle as they feel they can always get new kids. They will end up giving credit for next year to some, giving money to the real aggressive parents and try to make up the gap by hyper-aggressive recruiting next year. People feel this will change how clubs operate, but only going to bring out more of the worst traits as club fight to sign kids
 
Some clubs have stopped paying coaches. At least the ones they know they can replace. Unfortunately fine print might allow them not to refund anything. Not good as far as customer service goes, but most clubs are arrogant and feel the kids/parents will always be around. Some clubs just trying to get to the survive until the next pay cycle as they feel they can always get new kids. They will end up giving credit for next year to some, giving money to the real aggressive parents and try to make up the gap by hyper-aggressive recruiting next year. People feel this will change how clubs operate, but only going to bring out more of the worst traits as club fight to sign kids
I just don’t see schools giving away as many athletic scholarships In the next 2 years. I don’t think that the cost of ECNL justifies the end result. Paying $10k a year including travel is basically paying for college by the time you finish 5 years of ECNL.
 
I just don’t see schools giving away as many athletic scholarships In the next 2 years. I don’t think that the cost of ECNL justifies the end result. Paying $10k a year including travel is basically paying for college by the time you finish 5 years of ECNL.
You do realize that there is much more to playing ECNL than a financial scholarship offer, right? How about the kid who gets into the school because they are a recruit? The kid may be non-scholarship (see Ivy League) or they may get into USC on a books only scholarship. But because they were recruited they are automatically admitted (when they may not have been without soccer). Being a good soccer player is the ticket to admissions into a lot of top schools.

If you are paying 10K for ECNL you may want to think about which club you are playing for. Also, colleges are required to offer a certain number of scholarships by their conference and NCAA. So they cannot just drop scholarships arbitrarily.

Lastly, playing ECNL is about competing at the highest level. Not every player goes on to play in college. But they want to challenge themselves against the best. That is where they get their joy from.
 
I just don’t see schools giving away as many athletic scholarships In the next 2 years. I don’t think that the cost of ECNL justifies the end result. Paying $10k a year including travel is basically paying for college by the time you finish 5 years of ECNL.
Yeah, as mentioned above, do not look to ECNL as some type of scholarship path. It has been discussed here previously. Since some clubs got booted from MLS the ECNL have tried to push it as Academy Lite or even equal in the areas no MLS clubs are active in. The college sell has always been pushed, but they sell it harder now. If a kid is good, they don’t need to be in ECNL, CRL, or whatever league. If the child is really talented, seek Good competition (and more importantly a good coach) but always know they that doesn’t necessary mean the leagues mentioned. They will be seen. At $10k a year for 4-5 years...that can pay for a good education without the need of a scholarship
 
Yeah, as mentioned above, do not look to ECNL as some type of scholarship path. It has been discussed here previously. Since some clubs got booted from MLS the ECNL have tried to push it as Academy Lite or even equal in the areas no MLS clubs are active in. The college sell has always been pushed, but they sell it harder now. If a kid is good, they don’t need to be in ECNL, CRL, or whatever league. If the child is really talented, seek Good competition (and more importantly a good coach) but always know they that doesn’t necessary mean the leagues mentioned. They will be seen. At $10k a year for 4-5 years...that can pay for a good education without the need of a scholarship

I think you may have missed the point of the above post.... on the girls side, to be the best means playing both with and against the best so ECNL is a smart choice if your DD has the talent and you can make the logistics work....
 
Yeah, as mentioned above, do not look to ECNL as some type of scholarship path. It has been discussed here previously. Since some clubs got booted from MLS the ECNL have tried to push it as Academy Lite or even equal in the areas no MLS clubs are active in. The college sell has always been pushed, but they sell it harder now. If a kid is good, they don’t need to be in ECNL, CRL, or whatever league. If the child is really talented, seek Good competition (and more importantly a good coach) but always know they that doesn’t necessary mean the leagues mentioned. They will be seen. At $10k a year for 4-5 years...that can pay for a good education without the need of a scholarship
It is not $10K a year. Not even close. Stop with the false propaganda.
 
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