In reality man I got nothing against her. She has the right to speak her mind and voice her opinion like everyone else. I love what her DD brings to the game and the fact she is the only 2011 player on the team. That little goat is going to go far in the sport. Her ganas are always there and the way she is passing and moving the ball is phenomenal. Love her husband as well. He is the coolest Dad on the team
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In reality man I got nothing against her. She has the right to speak her mind and voice her opinion like everyone else. I love what her DD brings to the game and the fact she is the only 2011 player on the team. That little goat is going to go far in the sport. Her ganas are always there and the way she is passing and moving the ball is phenomenal. Love her husband as well. He is the coolest Dad on the team
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Think this threads getting so many hits because parents are freaking out about what club your goats going to end up and don't want it to be theirs.
When is national signing day for your DD? To piss even more masses off you should make a decision day video like a 5 star high school football recruit.
"Luis Andres, The Decision 2020"
Post it to YouTube and profit. Your video will spread faster then any STD at Arizona State.
Think this threads getting so many hits because parents are freaking out about what club your goats going to end up and don't want it to be theirs.
When is national signing day for your DD? To piss even more masses off you should make a decision day video like a 5 star high school football recruit.
"Luis Andres, The Decision 2020"
Post it to YouTube and profit. Your video will spread faster then any STD at Arizona State.
you've made such a complete ass of yourself that when DD's start telling parents that the #2 from Ole showed up at their practice there will be enough parents who read your comments throwing a fit that those coaches will have to seriously consider whether they need the distraction.
Mic Nificent
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GOAT status for Evelyn.
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Can you mass send this post to 98% of all clubs in so cal and also post this at every age group on the forum in hopes that some parents will understand they are doing more harm then good.
I don't think Evelyn is missing any point. She's not telling Luis not to criticize the team, she's asking him to do it in a private setting and not expose the her child's youth soccer team to a reality tv soccer forum setting. Club Soccer is a competitive setting, coach and players can put pressure on anyone to work harder or try harder but parents should stay out of it. You paid to have your kid on a soccer team to learn and grow as a soccer player and as a team player. You did not pay to openly criticize other people's children on a public forum - that you can do for free but you better be ready for criticism to be handed to you too. If you can't handle a few things Evelyn says about you, how do you think those little girls and their parents feel when you criticize their children? It's not okay to blame the defensive line publicly on a soccer forum. What do you think happens in a job setting or a professional athletic team if a parent publicly starts blaming teammates and co-workers?
And if Luis is going to come on a soccer forum and express himself whenever he feels like it, without concern or regards for anyone on his team, then Evelyn ( or anyone with freedom of speech) has a right to tell him to STFU.
That being said - I find Luis' comments very entertaining as they remind me of all the overly critical and involved parents from my children's younger days.
Evelyn - we know almost every team has a Luis. We feel bad for your team that he's making your team turn into a reality forum show for our entertainment. It's one of those things I want to put on ignore but just can't seem to. #GUILTYPLEASURES
Evelyn Gonzalez
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I agree with most of what you said. We should expect the best considering not only the financial investment, but also the time investment that we make into the club on and off the field. We should be able to address concerns and expect changes/improvement, but there's a way of doing it. I don't think "critiquing and demanding better" of players on a public has a positive outcome or produces results. I don't think there's anything wrong with comparing/critiquing teams, but when you begin to make references to specific players even though names aren't used, it's not the way to go. Maybe I haven't been on here very long or don't spend enough time reading the thread, but I don't see other members placing blame on players on their kid's team. Perhaps you wouldn't mind if a parent on your team makes references about your kid or other kids from the team on a public forum; good for you! Others do mind. It doesn't make us less competitive or we expect every player to get equal playing time, etc. It's okay for us people, like you said, to come here and disagree civilly and give a different perspective.
My best buddy right now is the GK dad. We both give each other permission to point out the obvious when one of our dds cracks under pressure. Its what happens to every athlete. Blues recruits but they also cut every year. A true coach will cut every year to make the team stronger.
Hi there, firstly let me say I'm impressed your taking this on head to head with Luis. He has to learn from this. My first time on this forum was u9 6 years ago. Some asshole was making fun of my dd. She was this little 4 ft striker and she cried when big girls whacked her in the box for crying. No name, just #7 is a cry big baby. No joke!!! I've never left here except for two years when I promised the club she was at I would behave and not post. They already knew about my posts. I never talked about kids but I did give away too much info before tournaments like we will be short handed or the injury report would come out too early. I did make excuses when we lost. Luis is taking it to another level.
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Evelyn Gonzalez
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I have also read most of his posts referencing our players. Just a difference of opinion, I don't find constructive criticism pointing out who "choked" during PKs, us losing a game because of our last defenders, or a player who returned on the field after an injury being the reason why we lost. They are just opinions. He and anyone has that right to do so, but it doesn't accomplish a positive outcome for the team to do it on the forum. You want to think it, cool. We all critique/analyze during games. I see nothing wrong with critiquing our team on what we could do better on a forum, but I/others find it unproductive to point out players due to a loss. If it matters so much to give constructive criticism about another kid, tell the parents in person. Just by two cents.
Trust me I would never go to a team having those types of values and beliefs inside its organization & culture. Second season doing club soccer and I gotta say I've learned a great deal from all the vets on here with their different points of views and perspectives around this subject matter and others like the big "Development" picture one and also what it takes to navigate the Club soccer atmosphere. And yes absolutely you may have the @XBZ or @smellycleats77 type of parent in those teams that will put a muzzle on the "Dad Dog" of the team for his barking and sit his DD out of games and just end up cornering the mutt against the wall and then see him begging to stay on the team because he has no other options and his wife and DD are feeling all emotional about the situation when they have him pinned to the corner. Versus the type of mutt who's actually got the playing cards to bet and double down that whatever you say is simply nonsense. An that at the end of the day may have an actual deeper understanding and reasoning towards the purpose of the behavior and perception emanated from his actions and persona to manipulate a desired outcome that will push the player and team development aspect of the process towards faster and more robust growth. Thus actually adding more value to everyones end final product. Player and Team.
For me it's more like making a business decision. If you let your emotions get in the way of doing the right thing you may find yourself heading in a southern direction and soon to be out of business due to the decision. And for the club heading in a direction where you will not develop the type of team that you aim to create and the type of club or organization that you wish to form. For me It’s simple, It comes down to finding the right team environment and coaching style that fits what you look for. But one must understand. That the process the environment for how club soccer has evolved in America has forced and created a business model that revolves around teams needing to maintain status & popularity for its product to sustain a standard for the way their product comes out. If we take Surf or Blues or any other large club soccer organization. The reason why they sit at the top of the food chain versus the mom and pop teams is because they understand that they can't make decisions based on emotions. Sometime they gotta do the ugly things that no one else wants to do to maintain their product and attract certain types of players needed in order for them to meet the goals of the product they put out. Wether its right, wrong or ethical or unethical is another topic for debate and the direct result of what most people value and are willing to open their wallets for. So when you have a product that's in high demand and that's in low supply. You can guarantee there will be customers. @Emma and @Evelyn Gonzalez have their own argument and a perspective with their own respectable points of views. As do I but I'll leave that for a later time to come back with my rebuttal. It's not just fact or Vic I'm going against here, these ladies are some heavy weights right here. It's a battle that I need to contemplate getting myself into because of who I'm facing here. But in fairness yes they make a point. And I'll be back to give my own perspective and point of view on how I see a different and maybe a bigger picture that most don't see.
This is where you are missing and not seeing the big picture...will get back on this view To be continued.....Gotta go handle business matters. This forum can get too addicting. Or I'll be the one going out of business soon lol..
We need the 30,000 foot perspective only
I don't think it's constructive criticism to say on a public forum that the lateral movement of the defense is at fault for the loss. Do you think that if the defense did more lateral sprints on their off day, they would have beat the Blues? Did he say anything about the Midfielders not anticipating the ball well enough and dropping deep enough to cover? Or whether the frontline put enough pressure to prevent the big forward pass? Maybe he should have said the team needs to work on cutting off passing angles at the defensive third more, that includes his player and is constructive. To blame the lost on defenders for not running sideways fast enough is not constructive.
Like you, I've read all of what Luis has written since he's jumped on this website. I even gave him the benefit of the doubt when he went on here at the beginning and was criticizing his team. He deleted all those posts after some of us on the forum gave him some constructive criticism. Then he gets comfortable and starts doing it again after a finals loss to the Blues. He couldn't control himself because he let the emotion of a Ulittle final game loss takeover his self control. Choking under pressure?
I agree that not all parents can accept criticism about their children but that has nothing to do with Evelyn's right to give constructive criticism to Luis on a public forum.
Evelyn is giving him constructive criticism. She's clearly telling him, if you have something constructive as a parent within a team, talk to the coach and parents, don't go on a local public forum and vent. Go to the Texas or Norcal forum, make up a fake team name and ask for advice there.
Luis is not listening to what people are telling him. His actions affect kids and parents on the team, including his own kid and wife. His wife and kid don't want him at the games. Yet he chooses to ignore everyone else in his life in order to satisfy his need to blame other people for losses, including 8/9 year old players, a coach that is developing all his players, and parents bc he thinks they don't take enough of his advice.
Sokrplayer75
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Time to shift gears, how bout the Eagles vs Legends at Silverlakes. Congrats to both for making finals and for Eagles taking the championship. Both solid teams!
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Nobody cares we are here for the Luis soap opera
We already have advertisements from the SoCal Blues Bakers, Lot's of Slammers teams, all the Surf locations and the big Liverpool announcement. Now we need a quick top 5 for this age group.
#1 Blues (what else is new)
#2 Eagles
#3 Ole
#3 Legends
#3 SDSC
The Big Clubs make you sign a "parent contract" and one of them is not posting on this public forum. Parent problems have been going on forever with youth sports. Give Luis a little mercy. American youth soccer is not easy to understand. He just got a taste of the Blues and let me tell you, the Blues will give you a dose of reality of what it takes to have Ganas and the winning formula all the time. RR is a master coach and recruiter at this age. Experince always wins out
Mr. Wave I do understand that concept that in the big clubs one must sign a contract. I don't have a contract right now. It's more like being a free agent. So when that time comes you will all have to say good bye to Luis Andres, like you all had to do with a character like EJ. Miss that guy...He was cool... And rumors are that he's in forum jail. Mr. Dom got him in there. However it does not mean that I cannot post on this forum anymore, if you understand what I mean, Mr. Wave... I threw out EJ cause everyone thought it was me in the beginning but I proved it's not me. I'm as real as it gets. But it got you all pondering lol...No I don't know who he is. It's still a mystery.
No way you can do that to SDSC Mr Wave. Tier 1 They deserve 1 or 2 Legends and Ole yea tied for 4th
@Sockers858 Seeing this here puts a smile on my face and makes my day...The wifey just sent it to me. Must mean schedule is out
