Santa Monica Surf

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  1. futboldad1

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    I'm struggling to count the number of Surf shirts running around nowadays, as an independent smaller club it's sad to see SMU go away (and they had great uniforms!). I'd heard rumors the past month or two about this so no great surprise especially given the recent spread of LA Surf. Club soccer choices getting ever smaller.
     
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    Not really. Keep in mind that SURF is both a Club and a brand. There are only 3 "Partner" Surf groups that are "corporate" San Diego, Orange County and Los Angeles Surf. Everything else is another corporation that licensed the name "surf." All the other "Surf" teams are affiliates, which means they are the same damn independent groups with the same stupid politics and same wonderful coaches and same other stuff, but now wearing a XYZ City/Region Surf uniform.
     
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    Sorry to see one of the lions disappear. SMU was one of the oldest and classiest clubs in the business. And yes! Stylish uniforms. Hope this doesn’t completely change that club. And curious what this does to soccer on the Westside of LA.
     
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    Forgot the link http://www.surfsoccer.com/2019/08/27/santa-monica-surf/
     
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    And another one bites the dust....

    At least there surf in Santa Monica :D

     
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    Sad
     
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    SMU? my daughter guest played them on Sunday. very tight team. if i'm not mistaken they played below their flight by 1 or possibly 2 levels. very sad loss for us.
     
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    Dang, that’s messed up. Why date your sisters best friend best friend, when you don’t have to. Hate to see this merger.
     
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    I get it. Sad in that it is the end of an era, but as an SMU parent I am excited about the possibilities and opportunities this partnership can provide. Landscape is changing. Can't stay in the same place.

    Great club. Great coaches. Great people. I expect more great things!
     
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    Please do not take offense to this @RocketFile but this is exactly the mindset your new boss wants you to have. They want you to think you’re getting something better when in fact you would’ve probably been better off staying SMU. My G03 has played against your F1 a few times over the years and they have always been top-notch competitors. Sad to see this happen. All you did was trade your kits in for a different brand / shade of blue and most likely a bunch of empty promises of “possible future opportunities.”
     
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    It's responses like this one that make these mergers happen and it is always fascinating to me. If you wouldn't mind, could you help out the rest of us by letting us know what "possibilities and opportunities this partnership can provide", that you didn't have access to before? Other than a salary bump for a couple of key figures (let's call them consulting fees and rebates), what does the end user get that he could not get before?
     
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    Instead for being in the 3rd flight for surf cup the new surf affliation will get them into the 2nd flight or the best of the best flight if there not too many other surf teams looking to do the same?
     
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    Snark on point.

    Sounds like you have it all figured out so what more could I possibly provide?
     
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    Oh my, I just erased a long rant!!! I'm learning to eat my words. SoCal Youth Soccer growing so beautifully :)
     
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    Its not a merger, simply SMU becoming a Surf affiliate, which gets them access to the Surf brand, registration tools and support. Nothing changes but the uniform.

    The boss is the same. Its not a merger but a license deal. The DOC and coaches at SMU and all other affiliates for that matter are the same as they were before becoming an affiliate.
     
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    Hey I appreciate the constructive tone, but with all do respect, you have absolutely no idea what arrangement I have with "my new boss", or what we have earned in the trade, or what has been promised.

    All I know as a parent is that we have smart and strategic people determining the direction of our club and even though we are sad to lose a cool brand, we are pumped for the specific opportunities the partnership provides.

    It probably doesn't make sense to outline them for this forum of killjoys and potshotters.
     
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    Hey everyone, I need to confess major trigger this morning. I haven't been on the forum for obvious reasons. I might need some help from the "Elders" in the group.
     
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    So let me guess - through this merger, the SMU players have direct access to boys ECNL and GDA with LA Surf. Your players can get opportunities and called up at anytime for guesting and tournaments. The pathway to excellence and elite opportunities are now yours. Also, that great direction from LA Surf DOC and expert coaches. None of that will happen. Same promises that have been given to all the other affiliates of other clubs - LA Arsenal, LA Legends etc - if anything one or two players at best will get poached from your best team leaving behind the rest of the team for mediocrity wondering what happened to my new opportunities.
     
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    Maybe someone can help me out with the structure of these partners and affiliates.

    1. What does a partner get that an affiliate does not get?
    2. Which are the partners, and which are the affiliates?
    3. Do any of the partners or affiliates have their own affiliates? For example, LA Surf folded in LA Premier, which previously had affiliates like Sherman Oaks, Downtown SC and Hollywood FC, which all had adopted the LA Premier name. Now they operate under the LA Surf name. Are these affiliates of San Diego Surf, or are they "sub-affiliates" (for lack of a better word) of LA Surf.
     

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