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  1. lancer

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    Like many, my DD switched clubs for next season. After state cup, we began using her card from her old club to play with her new team. Yesterday, we were contacted by her old club demanding we return the card.

    My question, am I obligated to return it?
     
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  2. TangoCity

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    They should not have given you the card. After you leave a club the card is suppose to be destroyed by the Administrator (or Manager) from the old club. The proper thing is to drop from the old club online then if you have a new club you get a new card through them or if you want to be a free agent and test the waters with different clubs then you apply for a Spring pass card from Cal South (for free). You should not be using the old card once you left, but I know many managers do not know this so it is done. You should give the card back and go through the correct procedures to get a new one. If you don't give it back they could hold up your drop/release on Cal South. Not sure what they could do/say if you told them you lost it though.
     
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  3. CaliKlines

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    http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/player-cards.14607/
     
  4. GunninGopher

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    Your new club registrar can get you one really quick. Wait until you get the new one then just ask the old club if a evidence of their card destroyed will satisfy them or just mail it back.
     
  5. timbuck

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    Why has this process not become automated yet? There's gotta be an app that someone is working on.
    1. Cal-South can drag and drop players to new teams as needed.
    2. Referees have the app on their phone. When they are assigned to games, they get access to both teams player cards.
    3. If a player gets hurt or carded - the referee puts it into the app.

    People will argue - what if the referee forgets his phone? What if the battery dies?
    The same question can be asked if they forget their watch, their flags or their game booklet.

    These silly plastic player cards are a joke. How many referees really look at the birthdate or team affiliation on a card? They look at the picture. They see if the name matches the name on the match report. Then they start the game.
     
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  6. younothat

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    Living in the 80's...

    Relative age group (RAG) coming soon! no need for those old school cards, each week players can receive their Bio-scan RAG (BRag) score that determines what group they play with that week.

    Each player gets Bio-scanned at the field each week or month at practice; put in some stats; height, weight, beep test, muscle mass, speed and produce the BRag score complete with unique bar code.
    A good BRag score could allow you're young stud player to play vs kids almost the same size....
     
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  7. LASTMAN14

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    Just got a new player card for one of our new players inside of 24 hours from our registrar. And have the players old card to boot. :D
     
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  8. Not_that_Serious

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    yep, agreed players are real antiquated. Admins, refs, coaches, managers should have an app to do this. sorry, person with the cards got in an accident on the freeway or had an emergency, "sorry, got have the cards".
     
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  9. GunninGopher

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    In Presidio/SDDA you can check in without the cards. Not all referees know that. (or I'm wrong, but I've done it)
     
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  11. Surfref

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    I know several referees that have old school flip phones. It would be a good idea if the manager had access to all of the cards on an app. then if they forgot a or all cards they just hand the ref their phone and the ref has access to the player cards.
     
  12. Not_that_Serious

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    At times Ive had to go to people's homes, jump fences, climb through windows and then drive cards out to location in order to get kids on the field. Ridiculous given available tech. Even if its not an APP, even a backend login via a browser. a ref can borrow someone's phone. if this was available Id lug my ipad around more.
     
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  13. Fact

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    Lol The good old days. Please include break window to get into house and drive 100 mph up the 405.
     
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  14. Not_that_Serious

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    Haha. I know that feeling. Getting around the dogs can take some effort too.
     
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    Adult league in Laguna Niguel (Cal South affiliated) have been using digital reporting system for over year without any issues. Referees use app on their phone to check players in, report misconduct and score. App is nice and simple.
    Out of 3 referees there will be at least one with smart phone (don't worry Surfref) to use this system.
    There is no reason why it's not done for the rest of Cal South teams.
     
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  16. timbuck

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  17. Coach_JimmyZ

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    One time for a scdsl league game, our head coach was running late and he had the player cards. I spoke to the ref crew before the game and asked if they would check us in using digital cards. Ref called his supervisor and got the okay. I logged in, gave ref my phone, and he went thru the digital cards to check in the team. Worked great . When coach got to the game, we gave player cards to the AR and that was that. Definitely came in handy to have access to digital cards.
     
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    Where did you find digital cards at? Our team manager has a picture of all of our cards on her phone. But nothing official from the league.
     
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    This past Fall we had game in Oxnard. Realized I forgot cards as I pulled in to parking lot. Can't drive 90 minutes home and get them in time for game. Coast forfeited us even though we could log in to cal south and show pictures and everything. Refs let us play a scrimmage so wasn't a complete waste of time. I felt terrible though as there is a ton of pressure on Managers not to mess this up as you ruin a game for your team and families.

    I totally support going electronic for league, CRL and State/National Cups. Not sure you can do it for tourneys with all the guest players.
     
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    I wish all of Cal South would use something like that app and maybe even develop an app for the Apple Watch so I can record yellow or red cards while still on the field.
     

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