ODP Western Region Championship this weekend

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  1. Emperador

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    Cal South is crushing people.
    The 05 team had a loss. But all other games have been absolute blowouts so far.

    Are HS players allowed to participate in ODP?
     
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    Girls 05 lost a game.
    Believe HS Players are not allowed to participate.
     
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    HS players can’t play.
    DA players can’t play.
    What about ECNL?

    Where are they finding 02 and 03 players if hs and DA can’t play?
    Quick look at the roster shows a few players from ecnl clubs, but I didn’t look to see if they are from the ecnl team.

    What about the other states that are participating? Are they in HS season right now too?
     
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    Yes cif south allows ODP/pro+ for HS players. The only exception that is noted in the rules.

    Our youngest son did the ODP/pro+ circiut during his u13 year, that was the beginning age for the pro+ CS travel teams back then. As I recall almost all the games for all ages where blowouts but when academy came calling things changed.

    Our son recently asked what's the point of pro+ anymore? When one of his friends was going to AZ for the weekend. To have fun blowing out other teams was the answer, not like the national or Olympic teams are looking to pro+ for players or anything.
     
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    CIF San Diego Section rules explicitly once allowed HS players to participate in the ODP program during HS season. Is it different now? Or in different Sections?
     
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    ECNL players can play.
     
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    I haven't seen much talk about ODP/CalPro + on the boards.

    How does this system rank with the DA teams, etc. that everyone is concerned about?
     
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    It's below DA and ECNL if you had to pick between them and ODP as it's only a few games and trainings per year. But it's nice for your kid to be recognized and play for your region so it's a shame DA bans players from participating (unlike ECNL).
     
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    I see, thanks for the info.
     
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    Yes Hs players can play. My daughter is on the g02 team and plays Hs.
     
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    Anybody know why Cal South does not bring girls/boys teams for U12/2007's?
     
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    There's not point in allowing DA players to play. That's why DA has showcases where a US and college scouts are at every game and pick who they what to try out for the US team. ODP is really a state's "Non-DA all-star team" and helps those not on a DA team to get a look at also by national and college scouts.
     
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    Calsouth typically does well but this year it appears that the gap between Calsouth and other regions is more significant. Very cool! Now we need to translate this success to the National team.
     
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    I'm not surprised the the Girls 05 team lost to Southern Nevada since 10 of the players are from the Heat ECNL team which is 6-0-1 and in 2nd place in the SouthWest ECNL Conference. Although they did lose 2 games against NorCal ECNL teams in the U13/U14 Showcase in Davis CA. Not to mention that the UNLV Women's coach is the Southern Nevada ODP head coach so that's a big plus. It looked like a pretty good game with ClaSouth losing 3-2. I'll find out more on what went wrong in that game Monday since one of my DD's teammates played on the ODP team.
     
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    With due respect (and I really mean that, I'm not trying to be rude), you're missing the point. Firstly, you say there's "no point in allowing DA players to play". Of course there is; representing your region, playing with unfamiliar players, playing MORE soccer not less. These are all huge "points" to play.

    Secondly, you've bought everything US Soccer is selling by believing the scouts there are going "to pick who they want to play for the US team". US Soccer already knows who the very few unicorns are that have national team potential at the young age groups. Everybody else who will play for the national team will get there the regular way -- by being a D1 standout. GDA ID Camps are no different to ODP or ECNL all star teams - it's just recognition that you're doing well not a sign you're the next Mia Hamm.GDA is primarily an alternative route to college not a true national team selection pool. If it were a actual tool for national team selection there'd only be two GDA teams in CA (one north and one south) and the kids would truly be the cream of the crop. Instead it's a power and cash grab by the federation. I'm not knocking them for this, as all other organizations are similarly motivated.

    My 06 DD plays at a DA club for the pre-DA team but my eyes are wide open. She wants to play D1 and GDA or ECNL is the best way to get there and from there the very slim chance of making the national team is an exciting one. But I sure as heck am not writing checks right now thinking it'll put her on the USWNT radar, and I hope nobody else is.
     
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    Watched a bit of the G2003 stream vs AZ. The Cal South 2003s are very good but the AZ team looks like a flight 2 SCDSL team at best.
     
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    ODP is such a joke! No top players on the girls rosters... I don’t see any top players from Slammers or Blues top teams. Strikers top player isn’t on the roster, but she might be with another club now. They might be good players but not top ranking competition. No disrespect but the 03 team only looks good because the competition is so mediocre. It’s a waste of time and money that the parents buy into. Yes, might be a fun experience but better off spending the money on a good college ID camp! No doubt So Cal can win!!
     
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