Enough with the fighting Rebels SC

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  1. Another Red Card

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    WOW

    Is Rebels SC developing soccer players or houligans? Heard about another fight they got into in at an ECNL game this past weekend, cops had to come and clear the parents, girls taken to the ER. SOunds like the second or third incident this season with the same team. Heard there Discovery team is the same way. Wonder if the club is going to address it or fix the issue? I know at the older ages that girls and guys play hard but it sounds like if you challenge a girl you get the beat down by the whole team and the parents. Sure that looks good to college coaches

    How many incidents does it take to get the boot from ECNL or SCDSL?

    I bet they have more Red Cards than goals looking at there teams records

    Cant we all just get along and play some soccer, no body wants to have to take their kid to the ER or watch dad get put in cuffs in the parking lot.
     
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    We played the Rebels ECNL 05 team this past weekend and had no problems at all. The game was pretty intense but nothing out of the ordinary. 2 yellow cards issued in the 2nd half to a player on each team (different incidents), again nothing too crazy. Parents were pretty cool also. I spoke to a couple of Rebel parents on the sidelines while walking around taking pictures and they were nice. We played against them a few times in the past when both teams were in Coast Soccer and in tournaments and again, nothing but good, hard fought games.
     
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    When I was reading your post I was sure that you were talking about teen boys or parents. But girls, wow! What age may I ask? I’ve seen out of hand Rebel’s parents and coaches as well as teen boys. I’ve only experienced trash mouths from the girls although that was even at a young age and their parents did not care. Hate to generalize but seem like a pattern.
     
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    The G04 RL game had a total of 4 red cards posted to the box score game played on 10/5 (on the ECNL website). This is the one I heard of but I also heard there were others before this. I don't know if this is limited to the RL teams or if the ECNL teams are having similar issues. They are a new club in ECNL and they are having an adjustment year - they have 7 wins as a club versus 22 losses - so maybe their frustrations are coming thru? Hopefully they will get back to just playing soccer soon.
     
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    Yes, they play possession but probably got pissed off because of the losing. Losing sucks for any athlete. My dd picked up a Yellow against them for standing up for her rights. The field down there in SD was tough to play on too. Gots to do better for ECNL reputation IMHO. Thanks for the heads up too :)
     
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    I looked on the ECNL site but did not see any cards; I could be looking at the wrong place thou??

    I hate to jump on a club but I feel this thread is well deserved by the Rebels, although I do know that I am just venting and nothing will be done. I also know that some 04 girls have come and gone (some bad seeds to Albion) but the core make up of the team seems to be the same. I always make a point of filming every game against the 04s because I am fearful of dirty players. And if it was not for their dirty players, I am sure my daughters would have liked to have tried out there, especially now with ECNL but would not consider it due to the poor attitude they have witnessed. When a club is being considered for DA or ECNL, there should be an open comment period and I think experienced ref's opinions should be asked for. Rebels have alienated a lot of families with their behavior that could have otherwise made their ECNL teams much better from the start.

    My daughters have played the 03 and 04 teams ( and before the age split as well) numerous times over the years. Even at Ulittles, the parents and players would swear at the other team. When Gabe took over the 04 team, most of our team knew Gabe and complained after the game to him about parents and players swearing at them. Gabe is a good guy and had our players pick out the parents and players. Too bad Gabe was not with this team long enough to instill good sportsmanship.

    Then when my daughter was on a Presidio all start team (no jokes please) the 04 Rebel's goalie's dad took the email list and started to email parents about Rebels tryouts. Interestingly, he used a new email address to cut and paste the emails onto in the hopes of not being traced. When I asked for a second time to be removed from his list, he got heated with me, saying that he "did not owe me anything" whatever that means. I asked for his name but he refused. I asked Ryan, Brian and Abel about it and they denied knowing anything. (the only reason I cared was because the guy got super mad when I asked for a second time to be removed and so I wanted to know what type of nutcase I was dealing with because I knew we would be playing them again). When I was able to find out that the person that was angrily emailing me was named Dominic, I asked Lewis if he had any parents on his team with that name. He denied it even though Dominic's daughter had been with the team for years. Anyways after I called him out, the angry emails stopped from all accounts he used, but not before another page full of ranting.

    Then a year or 2 later, a mom told me that she was really upset because the goalie's dad, (Dominic) who keeps an Instagram account for his daughter (or at least she thinks so because a lot of the posts are done during the school day and the language used is not typical for kids) posted a video of her daughter where she pushes a Rebel's player and wrote is this a dirty player? Looking at the video one girl was running full speed and the Rebels player stopped in front of her so the girl put out 1 hand to prevent colliding. That started nasty comments back and forth on Instagram. The parent called Rebels (I think Lewis) and asked them to remove the post but of course they did not care. I know that they cannot make the girl (or her dad) remove the post, but if it upset this parent enough to call, they should have showed some class, good will, sportsmanship etc. and at least spoke to the girl about how her posting could impact her college chances. That would probably have been enough to get her to realize that it should be removed.

    As a reliable source, @Surfref has been on this site describing horrendous behavior between two Rebels coaches, and bad behavior by parents and players.

    What has been described on this thread starts with the DOC and coach. While I don't expect my kids coach to teach them sportsmanship, I do expect them to enforce it and lead by example. Unfortunately bad sportsmanship permeates the club. Sorry to hear that it resulted in physical harm, but I am not surprised.
     
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    Two summers ago at the Rebels tournament was an absolute S-show by Rebels parents and coaches which included two Rebels coaches getting into a fight on the sideline during a game and in another game a Rebels parent stepped on the field during play to push a player. In the past year I have had only one problem with a mouthy Rebels mom that the coach told to be quiet and when she continued to yell the coach made her leave. I took a look at the Presidio/SDDA site and the Rebels teams have 71 Yellow cards and 4 Red cards. Two Red cards and 6 Yellow cards went to head coaches with one coach getting 2 Yellows. They are not as bad as Atlante with 123 Yellows and 8 Reds, SD Real Madrid 80 Yellows and 10 Reds, Chula Vista FC 35 Yellows and 8 Reds or Hotspurs 43 Yellows and 7 Reds. All of these clubs have numerous coaches that have received Yellow and Red cards. The coach sets the tone for the players. From my experience if a coach does their job and just coaches without yelling at the referees, then usually the players are well behaved. Coaches should set a good example.

    I have never had a problem with the Rebels DOCs and think they are all good coaches and have always been professional.
     
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  9. FernandoFromNationalCity

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    I’ve been with the Rebels for the last 4 years and never ever had any type incident with parents getting out hand like this tho..
    I’ll take a red card or yellow from a ref any day..
    Vs this..
    The good ole boys from surf and slammers and I see nooooo topics about this type of behavior..
     
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    It is all inexcusable bad behavior and pointing the finger at other clubs to deflect attention from your club’s behavior is sad.

    But if want to nit pick, at least the Surf Slammer’s fight was between adults. The original post in this thread mentioned repeat bad behavior by the same team and GIRLS SENT TO THE ER!!!!
     
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    I guess kicking a old man in his 70’s in his head while his granddaughter who was playing in that game was yelling at the surf parents to stop is ok as well.
    And for the record my daughter coach was sucker punched by a surf parent when these thugs started bring the fight towards my daughters team and he stopped them.
    None the less I also hear a parent from the incident you made a thread about was arrested for taking a swing at a Rebels girl who’s 15 years of age.
    But I guess you forgot to post that..
     
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    Tough lost for us but you guys have some really good ballers on your team
     
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    That's insane bro..... What fight/battle of parents are we witnessing here, when and where did this take place? Gnarly soccer parents duking it out for the kiddos to watch and observe.
     
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    Obviously you have me confused with someone at Surf. My kids don’t play there and I don’t have any information other than what is on this thread and my personal experiences with the 03 and 04 Rebels teams.

    And like I said it is ALL bad behavior and inexcusable!
     
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    And yet you made a thread about the Rebels
    It’s very unfortunate with happened last week
    I’ve talked to a few parents from that Rebels 04 team that the incident happened with.
    There’s always 2 sides to a story and you’re put a lot of sauce on your story
     
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    This happened earlier this year..
    It was at national cup and both teams where 05’s.
    Surf vs slammers
     
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    Just to be clear @FernandoFromNationalCity , the 04 parents weren't in that disturbing fight I just watched? Just a couple Red cards is the big complaint? If that's the case, that can happen in soccer so what we have here is another "Big Hat No Cattle" Rebels fighting parents? We played you guys and the parents were all cool to us that day. Some players on both sides got a little chippie is all I saw....
     
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    highly pathetic
     
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    Yes this fight i posted was among 2 of the biggest clubs in California and nothing was said!!

    But let a incident happen with a south San Diego club who with a lot of hard work from the club doc’s and teams was able to obtain ecnl status and certain people want their heads chopped off..
     
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    But that’s soccer on any level.. and that’s why my daughters Rebels team always shakes the opposing teams hands after every game..
     
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