DA and ECNL

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  1. Desert Hound

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    I have seen a few people comment that this coming year ECNL might force clubs to choose between on or the other vs having both.

    Anyone hear or know anything?
     
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    I have not. I have heard there may be a couple new markets opening up for DA in the southwest.
     
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    I highly doubt they would make ALL the Clubs choose! I mean, do you really think they would make Surf choose?

    I mean I don’t think ECNL is in a position to push the agenda right now do you? If they were smart, they would be looking to add a Club in northern LA County to serve all the kids (‘03 and above) who will be cut from DA next season with the age banding. If they don’t or are not considering it, DPL sure has a chance to gain a lot of strength in its second year IF they get their shit together.

    Someone needs to look at the void! Who will it be?
     
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    Maybe someone from NorCal can chime in. I thought some clubs up there were given an ultimatum.
     
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  5. Kicker4Life

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    I’m not saying that it isn’t possible they wouldn’t give certain Clubs an ultimatum.
     
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    Agree that is a great point. To give that geographic area an ECNL option would be great. Hopefully, ECNL leadership are thinking along those same lines.
     
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    According to a DOC from a very successful DA and ECNL club, ECNL is not forcing clubs to choose one over the other to retain ECNL membership.
     
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    I believe they have or are trying to force the choice but are learning they will come out on the loosing side. I hope that the ECNL powers that be look to expand membership in areas with a void as that will help out a lot of ‘03’s and would spell the end for DPL.
     
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    ECNL loss the war with DA but they could survive as the best 2nd tier league in the nation and market it as an alternative to DA for kids who want to play HS sports. If I were ECNL I would offer ECNL to all DA clubs and hope DA stays with combined age groups. This way ECNL would always be strong on the younger year of the DA combined age groups. This would eliminate the need for DPL and you could offer the top players and those willing to sacarfice 4 nights a week DA and the very good players who are on the younger side of the combined DA age groups and those that want to play HS sports ECNL. Could be a win win situation.
     
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    Based on last nights meeting looks like they are giving cubs (especially those with DA/ECNL) a three year reprieve to make the ECNL teams better. There is a 3 year “Objective Standard”.
     
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    Oh and they added U13.
     
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    Not so sure the battle is over. If US Soccer keeps calling up girls from ECNL teams that also have a DA team at that same club then parents are going to quit DA. Why give up and sacrifice everything as a high school girl when there is no purpose for that level of required commitment?
     
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    Interesting perspective. First it's great US Soccer is calling up players from multiple leagues as no one league has all the top players. 2nd DA other than one outliner in the 01/02 age group is the A team or top team in every DA/ECNL combo club. 3rd players and parents should be thankful that there are other leagues besides DA as it is highly demanding and competitive and it's not for everyone. Finally you imply that because US Soccer is drawing kids from ECNL still and that somehow that will change the landscape again. I would argue that has nothing to do with any landscape, as a fraction of those players less than 1% of all club players get called to play for the US or other National Teams, it doesn't factor as a pro or con where those Players get called from. Players that play DA are doing so because they want to compete at the most competitive arena and not because US Soccer might call them up. DA is here and will be the top teams in every DA Club, ECNL will be a great 2nd team and a place a few kids that want to play HS soccer can go and compete. Hopefully US Soccer and other Nations looking for the 1% look at every league as great individual players can be found anywhere.
     
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    You make some good points but don't agree with some of your comments. I am not arguing about which team is or should be the best at a DA/ECNL club. I am talking about top players that would have preferred to stay in ECNL and have a life and other opportunities but were pressured into moving to a DA team because they were told if you don't you will not be scouted. If you don't have a player in the DA you may not realize the increased level of sacrifice that has been required of these girls- I think many are watching and evaluating this for next year
     
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    I am betting that there will not be large numbers of top players that decide to forgo DA to play ECNL. Will there be some? Absolutely. However the vast vast majority will stay in a league where they play the best competition.
     
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    This is what I was responding to. You clearly state you don't think the battle is over between ECNL and DA. Your two points were why stay in DA when you can be called to the National Youth team from ECNL and why give up and sacarfice everything as HS girl? I simply answered the 1st as less than 1% get called to a Youth National Team so it's a non-factor and as far as giving up everything as HS girl I am sure many love DA, their teammates, and are enjoying their HS years. The few that choose not to partake on the demanding DA schedule will play ECNL, DPL, SCDSL, CSL etc. My point was that the war between DA and ECNL is over because the clubs chose to put DA as their top product.
     
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    After watching some of the US National team games, not sure they have the top 1%. They may be politically correct but don't necessarily have the top 1% or even 2%. There is a lot of talent out there, some get called to National camp, but for whatever reason, pc, coaches recommendations etc. etc. etc. there are many others who are just as talented and maybe even more so who are not being called into National camps for evaluation. Always interesting.
     
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    I think you are overlooking the fact that many of the ‘03’s and above were ECNL players prior to this season. So maybe they were already top US Soccer prospects going into this new cycle and these players simply decided the best situation for them was to remain on their current teams.
     
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    What's new?
     
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    If you look at the u15 gnt roster for this training camp....they only called in 4 new players to the camp...one in each position. The ecnl girls, they were at several of the camps last year. They aren't "new" and the 4 new call ups, all came from DA.
     
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