2006 DA
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Kante
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here's ranked teams that competed in the u13 Western Showcase in Nov. About 90% of the ranking is statistically driven based on in-group performance and the relative strength of each group, and then the last 10% is based on direct win-loss records.
For example, TFA is ranked ahead of LAFC because TFA won their match-up 3-2. Same situation with SD Surf beating the Strikers 1-0. Another example is the Pats being ranked above the San Jose Earthquakes. Despite not being as dominant in their group as the Quakes, the Pats beat the Quakes 2-0 at the showcase, plus the Quakes, playing in Norcal vs LA, have a much less difficult group.
Looking toughest to easiest, groups are ranked as follows: most difficult = Los Angeles, San Diego, Washington, Norcal, Colorado and Oregon = least difficult.
This is an experiment and would love feedback. Am brainstorming how to compare teams across regions at this age group to come up w/ a statistically driven national ranking algo. Constructive thoughts/suggestions/corrections would be appreciated.
For example, TFA is ranked ahead of LAFC because TFA won their match-up 3-2. Same situation with SD Surf beating the Strikers 1-0. Another example is the Pats being ranked above the San Jose Earthquakes. Despite not being as dominant in their group as the Quakes, the Pats beat the Quakes 2-0 at the showcase, plus the Quakes, playing in Norcal vs LA, have a much less difficult group.
Looking toughest to easiest, groups are ranked as follows: most difficult = Los Angeles, San Diego, Washington, Norcal, Colorado and Oregon = least difficult.
This is an experiment and would love feedback. Am brainstorming how to compare teams across regions at this age group to come up w/ a statistically driven national ranking algo. Constructive thoughts/suggestions/corrections would be appreciated.
Keeper3114
BRONZE
Just curious why do you show LAFC with a tie. Looking at DA website it shows that they only had one loss against TFA 3-2. They have won all their other games. Now TFA has a loss to Pats and a tie with LAUFA.
Kante
PREMIER
wow. any additional color or commentary on how the game went?
The 06 kids that are not playing in favor of the 07's, are they injured or something?
LAG definitely has digressed and it could have been worse. LAG had 3 07s playing up. Pats had their normal 2 that have playing up all season. LAG did not seem happy and some grumblings from the sideline in regards to coach MC
Food for thought-Everyone is giving props to LAG for playing up 07's, could it be they have already written off the 06 team this season. Not at all saying some of those kids are not talented but they have struggled all season if it was true development wouldn't the 06's be getting a chance up at 05's and so on. Other than when the 05 players were suspended from the incident at YNT Camp the 06's are not being pulled up could it be because this year the 05's are successful after struggling last year and they like the wins (yep I said it - clubs, directors, coaches, parents players enjoy winning and the benefits that come with it). Pats don't play up there top 06's when there is a tough game.
Agreed. So what happens to those 06 kids that didn't get rostered to play? Do they just sit home and develop there?
Kante
PREMIER
here's predicts vs actuals for this last weekend. home team is listed first.
Los Angeles
Predict: Real So Cal 0 vs LAFC 6. Actuals: Real So Cal 0 vs LAFC 3. Per game report, looks like it was close until about the 65th minute. One LAFC player went for a brace and likely was a tough match-up for RSC.
Also, per the game report, RSC did not have five players rostered. Not sure if these players have dropped or not. And, per the game report, LAFC did not have six players rostered, and was playing three players up. Again, not sure if these LAFC '06 players have dropped or are typically rostered.
Predict: TFA 4 vs. LA Premier 1. Actuals: TFA 5 vs. LA Premier 1
Predict: LA Galaxy 1 vs. Pateadores 3. Actuals: LA Galaxy 1 vs. Pateadores 7. Ouch. Will leave it to folks to read the thread above for details and commentary about this match. The LAG 06s are clearly on a downward trajectory, even accounting for playing 07s up, and, if what the LAG org did w/ the 05 player from the 2017-18 season is an indicator (LAG brought in 10 new 05 players from other academies for the 2018-19 season, and cut a corresponding number of kids from the 2017-18 05 squad), this doesn't bode well for the current 06 LAG families.
A quick note/two cents. While most academy parents should have an idea of what academy means, and how the academy teams make decisions about players, it's one thing to know this in the abstract, and another thing to experience it first hand with your 12 or 13 year old.
Progress in life is not a straight line and it's a very good, but very tough, lesson to learn. 99.9% of soccer cut/keep decisions - especially at the u12 thru u15 age - can be ridiculously subjective, regardless of what "expert" coaches say. Believe it or not, who is playing at u14 is a very poor indicator of who will be playing at u20 (only five of the 100+ kids called up to the u14 ynt national team five years ago made it to the current u20 squad that just won Concacaf, and three of those players were only initially ID'ed in the now defunct Futures Camp meant to ID and nurture late developers and kids born in the 2nd half of the year).
Remember, there are a fair number of other, probably better, options to keep playing at a high level, and even to keep playing at an academy level. And, also remember, school is way, way, way more important than soccer for 98% of the kids now playing u13 DA soccer.
Predict: Santa Barbara SC 1 vs. LAUFA 2. Actuals: Santa Barbara SC 0 vs. LAUFA 4
San Diego
Predict: LAGSD 2 vs. Albion 1. Actuals: LAGSD 2 vs. Albion 0
Predict: OC Surf 2 vs. Arsenal 2. Actuals: OC Surf 1 vs. Arsenal 3
Predict: Chula Vista 2 vs. Murrieta 4. Actuals: Chula Vista 1 vs. Murrieta 3
Los Angeles
Predict: Real So Cal 0 vs LAFC 6. Actuals: Real So Cal 0 vs LAFC 3. Per game report, looks like it was close until about the 65th minute. One LAFC player went for a brace and likely was a tough match-up for RSC.
Also, per the game report, RSC did not have five players rostered. Not sure if these players have dropped or not. And, per the game report, LAFC did not have six players rostered, and was playing three players up. Again, not sure if these LAFC '06 players have dropped or are typically rostered.
Predict: TFA 4 vs. LA Premier 1. Actuals: TFA 5 vs. LA Premier 1
Predict: LA Galaxy 1 vs. Pateadores 3. Actuals: LA Galaxy 1 vs. Pateadores 7. Ouch. Will leave it to folks to read the thread above for details and commentary about this match. The LAG 06s are clearly on a downward trajectory, even accounting for playing 07s up, and, if what the LAG org did w/ the 05 player from the 2017-18 season is an indicator (LAG brought in 10 new 05 players from other academies for the 2018-19 season, and cut a corresponding number of kids from the 2017-18 05 squad), this doesn't bode well for the current 06 LAG families.
A quick note/two cents. While most academy parents should have an idea of what academy means, and how the academy teams make decisions about players, it's one thing to know this in the abstract, and another thing to experience it first hand with your 12 or 13 year old.
Progress in life is not a straight line and it's a very good, but very tough, lesson to learn. 99.9% of soccer cut/keep decisions - especially at the u12 thru u15 age - can be ridiculously subjective, regardless of what "expert" coaches say. Believe it or not, who is playing at u14 is a very poor indicator of who will be playing at u20 (only five of the 100+ kids called up to the u14 ynt national team five years ago made it to the current u20 squad that just won Concacaf, and three of those players were only initially ID'ed in the now defunct Futures Camp meant to ID and nurture late developers and kids born in the 2nd half of the year).
Remember, there are a fair number of other, probably better, options to keep playing at a high level, and even to keep playing at an academy level. And, also remember, school is way, way, way more important than soccer for 98% of the kids now playing u13 DA soccer.
Predict: Santa Barbara SC 1 vs. LAUFA 2. Actuals: Santa Barbara SC 0 vs. LAUFA 4
San Diego
Predict: LAGSD 2 vs. Albion 1. Actuals: LAGSD 2 vs. Albion 0
Predict: OC Surf 2 vs. Arsenal 2. Actuals: OC Surf 1 vs. Arsenal 3
Predict: Chula Vista 2 vs. Murrieta 4. Actuals: Chula Vista 1 vs. Murrieta 3
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We played against 05 LAG last season and they were strong.
TFADA IG posted they won 5-1
Kante
PREMIER
gracias
Iknownothing
BRONZE
SB 0 - LAUFA 4
Kante
PREMIER
thx
Kante
PREMIER
Here's predicts for this weekend (3/9 & 3/10). Home team is listed first. Should be good soccer weather this weekend.
Los Angeles:
Real SoCal 0 vs Pats 3
LAFC 4 vs LAUFA 0
TFA 6 vs . LAG 2
Legends 2 vs Santa Barbara SC 2
FC Golden State 2 vs. LA Premier 2
San Diego:
Murrieta 2 vs. SDSC 2
OC Surf 1 vs. SD Surf 3
LAGSD 3 vs. Chula Vista 1
Nomads 1 vs. Arsenal 4
Strikers 3 vs. Albion 0
Los Angeles:
Real SoCal 0 vs Pats 3
LAFC 4 vs LAUFA 0
TFA 6 vs . LAG 2
Legends 2 vs Santa Barbara SC 2
FC Golden State 2 vs. LA Premier 2
San Diego:
Murrieta 2 vs. SDSC 2
OC Surf 1 vs. SD Surf 3
LAGSD 3 vs. Chula Vista 1
Nomads 1 vs. Arsenal 4
Strikers 3 vs. Albion 0
TFA vs LAG , 2-2
TFA lost their top goal scorer due to an injury in the 1st half, I believe he broke his collar bone. They played one man down for the remainder of the first half. That changed to momentum of the game for TFA. Both teams didn't play there respective games not much possession soccer lots of long balls, balls in the air not the best soccer from both teams.
TFA lost their top goal scorer due to an injury in the 1st half, I believe he broke his collar bone. They played one man down for the remainder of the first half. That changed to momentum of the game for TFA. Both teams didn't play there respective games not much possession soccer lots of long balls, balls in the air not the best soccer from both teams.