Because in a perfect soccer world- everyone attacks and everyone defends.
Things that make you go hmmm....
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The question is how you teach that to a 10 year old. If a there is a coach who focusses on that aspect during the game then maybe by the time the kid is a teen they will have it down.
IMO not even then. Movement off the ball is as important as movement with the ball, a player's decision making can't be interrupted by coach yelling instructions during active play. A player will never learn to make his own decisions if they're being joysticked by the coach. It stunts their soccer IQ. Their is plenty of time for a coach to give instructions during stoppages of play, substitutions, half-time, practices etc.
This past season my son had two coaches (who disliked each other) that often would give contradictory instructions during games, not to mention some of our parents sideline coaching. My son was already ignoring the parents, but it got so bad with the coaches that I had to tell him to tune out the coaches instructions when he had the ball and to make his own decisions.
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That would be the danger of two or more coaches. I think the idea that coaches just sit and watch the game is misleading because if you watch the European leagues coaches are up barking orders. Obviously they are not joysticking but they are directing.
I doubt any of those coaches are telling their players when to pass, who to pass it to or when to shoot etc. I suspect the instructions they are giving are generally tactical in nature. Even then I suspect the players hear very little of it (in a stadium full of thousands of spectators) and most of what the coaches say while the ball is rolling is just for their own benefit so they feel like they are contributing. I'm not opposed to coaching guidance during the game at the appropriate times. However, in the moment player decision making shouldn't be interrupted.
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outside!
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We have been lucky to have some good coaches for our kids. Telling a defender to mark a certain player, or shouting "playerx has two marks" or telling a player to move to a certain area and then a few seconds later that player is in the right place at the right time is the one of the marks of a good game coach.
We had a hard time even getting a 10-year-old to get back onside after he missed a shot.
Thought this was a interesting and funny hmmm...
https://www.espn.com/soccer/blog-th...d-footballs-biggest-stars-put-through-faceapp
https://www.espn.com/soccer/blog-th...d-footballs-biggest-stars-put-through-faceapp
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A few weekend headscratchers-
1. Opposing team dad. Wearing cargo shorts and flip flops (because this is the outfit of all sideline offenders). Standing at midfield. Flapping his arms and twisting his body with every play. Chirping for a "handball" over and over again. Play happened 5 minutes ago and the guy is still asking for it. There's a bump at midfield. His team player fell down. No call. Guys yells "You gotta throw the flag for that." (I think he wanted 15 yards for "roughing the kicker").
2. At the end of practice on Wednesday, my kid can't find her ball. She wanders over to the half of the field that another team from her club was using. Finds her ball in the coaches pile of balls. Her name is in BIG RED letters on the ball. And our phone number. She brings the ball back and there is blue marker trying to cover up her red name. And the other coaches name has been written on her ball 3 times in black and blue sharpie.
1. Opposing team dad. Wearing cargo shorts and flip flops (because this is the outfit of all sideline offenders). Standing at midfield. Flapping his arms and twisting his body with every play. Chirping for a "handball" over and over again. Play happened 5 minutes ago and the guy is still asking for it. There's a bump at midfield. His team player fell down. No call. Guys yells "You gotta throw the flag for that." (I think he wanted 15 yards for "roughing the kicker").
2. At the end of practice on Wednesday, my kid can't find her ball. She wanders over to the half of the field that another team from her club was using. Finds her ball in the coaches pile of balls. Her name is in BIG RED letters on the ball. And our phone number. She brings the ball back and there is blue marker trying to cover up her red name. And the other coaches name has been written on her ball 3 times in black and blue sharpie.
outside!
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I would be curious to what the coach in question and the DOC had to say about that.
Basketball game this weekend. We had 8 players, 4 coaches. I swear all I could hear was my daughters name being yelled by one of them to do this or do that or good job or what not. WAY TO MANY. I'm thinking if we can to 8 coaches then each coach will be responsible for one player.
1dad2boys
SILVER
Had a game this weekend with parents of both teams sitting amongst each other. Had a nice pre-game chat with the family next us as we got to know each other. Next thing I know I am being offered a homemade taco and a water. Then at the end of the game, it was hugs and wishing good luck to each other. One of the best parent interactions I have had in 10 years of youth soccer. Plan to pay it forward.
Same but soccer at my son's ayso or whatever rec league it is. 7v7 with 3 coaches each of them wearing the same color t-shirt as the boys with shirt but "coach" written on the back and standing about 10 yards from each other on the sideline screaming the most backwards wrong instructions and then let the kids know they screwed it up. My dad kept telling me to give my son proper instruction or help when the kid was clueless what to do and I said no I don't want to step on the coaches toes they are volunteering their time and I'm not willing or available to do that but I could only take so muchBasketball game this weekend. We had 8 players, 4 coaches. I swear all I could hear was my daughters name being yelled by one of them to do this or do that or good job or what not. WAY TO MANY. I'm thinking if we can to 8 coaches then each coach will be responsible for one player.
oh canada
GOLD
Mom with opposing team's player in front of us at Subway after the game. Gets through entire Subway line making their two sandwiches and at the register. Realizes her wallet is at home, not in her purse--no ccards, no cash. Kid behind the register didn't know what to do. Mom and kid start to walk out, leaving their 6-inchers and chips behind. Can't let that happen...so, covered their food and told them to "pay it forward". If they were "footlongs", I wouldn't have paid for it .
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Banana Hammock
SILVER ELITE
FYI from SCDSL
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The link below is a great watch and explanation about youth sports referees and why they are quitting which then explains why we have such a shortage of referees. Referees just don't want to put up with the continued abuse. Put yourselve in the shoes of the person you are verbally abusing. How would you feel if you were being yelled at, cussed at, followed to your car and threatened? Would you want to keep doing a job where you are constantly abused? How, as a parent, would you feel if your child was a youth referee and some out-of-control parent was cussing at him/her, following them to the parking lot or making them cry out of fear? My kids refereed 1-day and then quit because the parents were so brutal.
This past weekend we continued to have parents sent-off at record rates. Including a father of a 2008 player for verbally abusing and physically intimidating 2 youth referees. That parent is now banned for the remainder of the season. Another situation where two G05 players got in to a fight and the mother of one of the players (instead of pulling her daighter out of the fight) jumped in to attack the player her daughter was fighting with. This mother is now banned too.
Presidio has taken the steps that if ANY parent from ANY team is sent-off during the game then the WHOLE sideline is banned from attending the next game. My initial thoughts were that seemed to be a bit excessive and extreme but if parents continue to behave the way they are, we may have to look at extreme options moving forward. I'd like to think that, as a league, we have better sidelines than that and we shouldn't need to ban everyone but we can't rule anything out if this problem keeps up.
I will say that the majority of the parents on the sideline are great and not a problem. I certainly don't classify everyone as problem parents and I really don't want to implement punishment for everyone due to the actions of a few. But it's the actions of a few, and getting to be more than a few, that are causing big problems in the game for our children.
Coaches should lead by GOOD example. When coaches go crazy the parents tend to follow. We should have higher standards of ourselves when it comes to our children and how we behave in front of them. My kids would be horrified if I had even been sent-off from a game for verbally or physically abusing referres, players or parents. I keep saying - referees are human, they make mistakes, sometimes bad mistakes but if you think you can do a better job, take the referee course and get out there and officiate some games and see how that goes. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
Please help your parents to understand that this is a problem that must get brought under control and please share this link with them."
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/youth-sports-officials-referees-quitting-record-rates-blaming-parents
"
The link below is a great watch and explanation about youth sports referees and why they are quitting which then explains why we have such a shortage of referees. Referees just don't want to put up with the continued abuse. Put yourselve in the shoes of the person you are verbally abusing. How would you feel if you were being yelled at, cussed at, followed to your car and threatened? Would you want to keep doing a job where you are constantly abused? How, as a parent, would you feel if your child was a youth referee and some out-of-control parent was cussing at him/her, following them to the parking lot or making them cry out of fear? My kids refereed 1-day and then quit because the parents were so brutal.
This past weekend we continued to have parents sent-off at record rates. Including a father of a 2008 player for verbally abusing and physically intimidating 2 youth referees. That parent is now banned for the remainder of the season. Another situation where two G05 players got in to a fight and the mother of one of the players (instead of pulling her daighter out of the fight) jumped in to attack the player her daughter was fighting with. This mother is now banned too.
Presidio has taken the steps that if ANY parent from ANY team is sent-off during the game then the WHOLE sideline is banned from attending the next game. My initial thoughts were that seemed to be a bit excessive and extreme but if parents continue to behave the way they are, we may have to look at extreme options moving forward. I'd like to think that, as a league, we have better sidelines than that and we shouldn't need to ban everyone but we can't rule anything out if this problem keeps up.
I will say that the majority of the parents on the sideline are great and not a problem. I certainly don't classify everyone as problem parents and I really don't want to implement punishment for everyone due to the actions of a few. But it's the actions of a few, and getting to be more than a few, that are causing big problems in the game for our children.
Coaches should lead by GOOD example. When coaches go crazy the parents tend to follow. We should have higher standards of ourselves when it comes to our children and how we behave in front of them. My kids would be horrified if I had even been sent-off from a game for verbally or physically abusing referres, players or parents. I keep saying - referees are human, they make mistakes, sometimes bad mistakes but if you think you can do a better job, take the referee course and get out there and officiate some games and see how that goes. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
Please help your parents to understand that this is a problem that must get brought under control and please share this link with them."
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/youth-sports-officials-referees-quitting-record-rates-blaming-parents
jpeter
PREMIER
Paid Beer/wine garden for the civil parents, free octagon for the unruly. Refs can pick a fighter to represent vs any body with a beef.
Otherwise let's get some affordable other options, at least for the sidelines
This is from Presidio this week....Sportsanity
Below is a great article about how sideline behavior affects our young athletes. Please make a point to forward this email to the parents on your team. I know I have grown as a parent on the sidelines from when my children were young, trust me my kids appreciate it ( :
It's Time to End the Sideline Sportsanity - Changing the Game Project
As soon as I stepped out of my car in the parking lot, I could hear it. It was a beautiful Saturday afternoon of travel soccer, but there it was. You know what I’m talking about: that sometimes beautiful, often times excruciating cacophony of sounds that we have come to know as “cheering for our kids” during a typical youth sporting event.
https://changingthegameproject.com/time-end-sideline-sportsanity/
Below is a great article about how sideline behavior affects our young athletes. Please make a point to forward this email to the parents on your team. I know I have grown as a parent on the sidelines from when my children were young, trust me my kids appreciate it ( :
It's Time to End the Sideline Sportsanity - Changing the Game Project
As soon as I stepped out of my car in the parking lot, I could hear it. It was a beautiful Saturday afternoon of travel soccer, but there it was. You know what I’m talking about: that sometimes beautiful, often times excruciating cacophony of sounds that we have come to know as “cheering for our kids” during a typical youth sporting event.
https://changingthegameproject.com/time-end-sideline-sportsanity/
Our superb team Mom/Mngr sent your superb post to all team parents. Your sentiment is going to make the rounds. I can't say I've ever really even harangued a ref, but I don't think I'll say anything other than thank you going forward (which I try to do anyway).