Recruiting Tips for Parents Just Starting the Process

I read back through the thread after getting a "like" for an older post.
 
After my DDs game today one of her teammates had Heart issues and passed out. Paramedics were called, CPR was administered. Her teammate was revived and taken to the Hospital and is conscious and alert.

As a parent, that has to be the scariest thing to go thru, especially if your kid is out of state.
 
Surfref said:
Great news. Congratulations. What state are you moving too?

Work on the coach for an in-state tuition waiver. That was one of the things we negotiated with my DD and the coach made it happen which saved $11,000 in tuition costs. My DD was out of that first college within a year and back near home this year going to a local JC to finish her gen ed classes and still playing. You are spot on about not burning bridges. We just took a trip up to the Bay area to visit two colleges that recruited her when she was in HS. Both coaches remembered DD and were eager to get her into their programs. They also know that they don't need to throw a huge scholarship at her since she gets free tuition in CA because I have a 50% Veterans disability rating. The JC coach also sent them some game film and to our surprise so did the University coach from last year.
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We were planning on moving to AZ whether or not she chose ASU. I spend about 5 hours a day in traffic and I can retire in roughly a year and a half. I have family there and some things set up for me when I get there. We definitely worked out the in state tuition. So she will have family close to her. And we already spend a lot of time out there. She said the school already felt like home and that was when we knew she had decided.
 
Funny because my daughter has all the tools and gifts needed, she has always been way above average size, speed, technical ability since the age 4. We have been told by several different coaches "she can play any college she chooses, she could write her own ticket IF she wishes." She has always played at a top level at a top level super club, also played in the YNL. She has played up in age for the past 3 years and still has this year and next year to go! The best part is after all of this I don't think she wants to attend a college. She loves the game but maybe not so much on the idea of college other then to play more soccer. Yes her HS grades are all way above average. As we have come to find out as parents this journey has not been about college for her, it has been literally for the love of the game. We as parents don't care what she chooses as long as she is happy, of course the club and coaches around her all have their idea of what her dreams should be but the truth is we don't pay them to tell us what our daughters dreams SHOULD BE.
 
sandshark said:
She loves the game but maybe not so much on the idea of college other then to play more soccer. Yes her HS grades are all way above average. As we have come to find out as parents this journey has not been about college for her, it has been literally for the love of the game.
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Would she go to college to play on best team she could so she could have post college playing options? Or perhaps have a career revolving around the game? Coaching?
 
gkrent said:
Would she go to college to play on best team she could so she could have post college playing options? Or perhaps have a career revolving around the game? Coaching?
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Funny you would say that because she has mentioned that she would love to be a coach and stay in the sport. She has also started to talk about playing for some specific colleges because several girls on her team are committed. My issue is she honestly wants to attend a college mainly for the opportunity to play more soccer, not as much the academics. She seems to be driven to do whatever it takes to play soccer and I know college will be her only avenue to play at a high level? The way I see it if she does want to keep playing then she will wrap up a deal with a college and keep on going.
 
sandshark said:
Funny you would say that because she has mentioned that she would love to be a coach and stay in the sport. She has also started to talk about playing for some specific colleges because several girls on her team are committed. My issue is she honestly wants to attend a college mainly for the opportunity to play more soccer, not as much the academics. She seems to be driven to do whatever it takes to play soccer and I know college will be her only avenue to play at a high level? The way I see it if she does want to keep playing then she will wrap up a deal with a college and keep on going.
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Why limit her to being a coach? Guide her to being a DOC as well as a coach, and have her take some business accounting classes that could help her run a successful club. She doesn't have to graduate since it is not important to her, but it does help to have some of the accounting foundations, if she has aspirations of running her own club. Remember, this is just a suggestion...not a "she should do this" recommendation.
 
CaliKlines said:
Why limit her to being a coach? Guide her to being a DOC as well as a coach, and have her take some business accounting classes that could help her run a successful club. She doesn't have to graduate since it is not important to her, but it does help to have some of the accounting foundations, if she has aspirations of running her own club. Remember, this is just a suggestion...not a "she should do this" recommendation.
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Of course we will promote her taking advantage of college and learning skills to better her options in her future ventures. We as a family all shoot for the top. I'm very confident she will rise to the top of any profession she chooses. Honestly I would have zero interest in her being a part of the club soccer industry. The business ethics and dealing with the parents in club soccer is not anything I wish for my DD. Whatever she ends up doing I'm sure she will be her best.
Thank you for your input i appreciate it.
 
sandshark said:
Funny you would say that because she has mentioned that she would love to be a coach and stay in the sport. She has also started to talk about playing for some specific colleges because several girls on her team are committed. My issue is she honestly wants to attend a college mainly for the opportunity to play more soccer, not as much the academics. She seems to be driven to do whatever it takes to play soccer and I know college will be her only avenue to play at a high level? The way I see it if she does want to keep playing then she will wrap up a deal with a college and keep on going.
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What is her grad year and what age group does she play in? The only reason that I ask is because if she is in 8th grade or older the process has already started. I know that my players school is working on their 2019 class of domestic players and working on 2017 and 2018 internationals. The process starts quickly and the money goes just as quickly. Now if money wasn't something that you care about then take your time.
 
MakeAPlay said:
What is her grad year and what age group does she play in? The only reason that I ask is because if she is in 8th grade or older the process has already started. I know that my players school is working on their 2019 class of domestic players and working on 2017 and 2018 internationals. The process starts quickly and the money goes just as quickly. Now if money wasn't something that you care about then take your time.
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I agree with you but with a caveat...those top players that are filling up the recruiting classes of the Penn States, UCLAs and the Stanfords of the world don't have to do much to get recruited. There is also more time if a kid is interested in a mid major or an Ivy. If a kid is a good player but not YNT pool player or a regular on an ODP squad they will have to do a little more work but also have a little more time. As for money I know seniors that committed for D1 schools that received athletic money...maybe not full cost of attendance but they did work something out and if they end up showing a strong work ethic and make an impact on the team there is/was more money for them in the future.

One of my players was recruited by the school she ended up at December of her Senior year. She paid a total of 5 figures out of pocket for a degree at jesuit catholic university. The staff "found" money for her and made it work for her.

I guess my point is all is not lost if you start the recruiting process on the late side if your player is solid with an outstanding work ethic.
 
gkrent said:
I agree with you but with a caveat...those top players that are filling up the recruiting classes of the Penn States, UCLAs and the Stanfords of the world don't have to do much to get recruited. There is also more time if a kid is interested in a mid major or an Ivy. If a kid is a good player but not YNT pool player or a regular on an ODP squad they will have to do a little more work but also have a little more time. As for money I know seniors that committed for D1 schools that received athletic money...maybe not full cost of attendance but they did work something out and if they end up showing a strong work ethic and make an impact on the team there is/was more money for them in the future.

One of my players was recruited by the school she ended up at December of her Senior year. She paid a total of 5 figures out of pocket for a degree at jesuit catholic university. The staff "found" money for her and made it work for her.

I guess my point is all is not lost if you start the recruiting process on the late side if your player is solid with an outstanding work ethic.
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On anther note, Pac12 and Big10 schools athletic money is guaranteed. So, if a player is hoping they will get money in year 2 or 3, it may not happen...since money is tied up for 4 yrs. Those conference coaches can't take away a players athletic money forcing the player to transfer, freeing up money to give to another player.
 
My sister committed to a D1 school here Senior year, four year full ride. That was back in 2000, so I guess times have changed a bit. I think more pressure is being put on the kids to sign early by the coaches and I don't agree with that. Parents are buying into the hype and are afraid that their kidn is going to be left out if they dont sign as soon as possible.My DD signed here Senior year to an NAIA school and still got money for soccer and academics.
 
Multi Sport said:
My sister committed to a D1 school here Senior year, four year full ride. That was back in 2000, so I guess times have changed a bit. I think more pressure is being put on the kids to sign early by the coaches and I don't agree with that. Parents are buying into the hype and are afraid that their kidn is going to be left out if they dont sign as soon as possible.My DD signed here Senior year to an NAIA school and still got money for soccer and academics.
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NAIA has lot looser recruiting and scholarship system than NCAA. Unfortunately, their numbers are declining. The closest one to me, Cal State San Marcos,is in the process of converting to NCAA D2.
 
NoGoal said:
On anther note, Pac12 and Big10 schools athletic money is guaranteed. So, if a player is hoping they will get money in year 2 or 3, it may not happen...since money is tied up for 4 yrs. Those conference coaches can't take away a players athletic money forcing the player to transfer, freeing up money to give to another player.
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I don't buy those guarantees. Those go to top players that want to see the field. If they are strongly encouraged to transfer (read: benched), then that money is freed up. Seen it!
 
gkrent said:
I don't buy those guarantees. Those go to top players that want to see the field. If they are strongly encouraged to transfer (read: benched), then that money is freed up. Seen it!
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That is the point of the reform. College coaches in the Pac12 and Big10 can't say, I highly recommend you transfer, because you will never see the pitch, freeing up money. The student athlete can say, I'm good coach. I will keep working hard on the practice field. The coach can't force their hand and the athletic money taken away from them.
http://pac-12.com/article/2014/10/2...weeping-reforms-student-athletes-guaranteeing

http://informedathlete.com/the-facts-about-guaranteed-multi-year-ncaa-di-scholarships/
 
NoGoal said:
That is the point of the reform. College coaches in the Pac12 and Big10 can't say, I highly recommend you transfer, because you will never see the pitch, freeing up money. The student athlete can say, I'm good coach. I will keep working hard on the practice field. The coach can't force their hand and the athletic money taken away from them.
http://pac-12.com/article/2014/10/2...weeping-reforms-student-athletes-guaranteeing

http://informedathlete.com/the-facts-about-guaranteed-multi-year-ncaa-di-scholarships/
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Still, a player may walk away anyway because they want to see the field and actually want to quit/transfer and the program can cancel their scholarship. Further, this only applies to the power 5 conferences.
 
gkrent said:
Still, a player may walk away anyway because they want to see the field and actually want to quit/transfer and the program can cancel their scholarship. Further, this only applies to the power 5 conferences.
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That's the point. If the player wants to walk away it's on their discretion, not because they were forced out....because the coach wants to give their money to a new player transferring in. Also protects the athletic student in their Jr or Sr year and close to graduating in case their is a coaching change and the player doesn't fit the new coaches style of play. It is a good thing if new rules are approved to protect the student athlete!

Lastly, I posted the 4 yr guarantee athletic ship applied to the Pac12 and Big10 (didn't know the other 3 Power 5 approved it as well). I never posted it was for mid-majors conferences.
 
gkrent said:
Still, a player may walk away anyway because they want to see the field and actually want to quit/transfer and the program can cancel their scholarship. Further, this only applies to the power 5 conferences.
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It's smart to do this research up front. You can usually tell what plans the coach has for your player based upon the $$$ they are offered. If they offer a lot of money then they are expecting a player to have an impact immediately.
 
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