Does anyone know much about the Super Y League? Is it developing? The competition for Arsenal is weak in this age group. National Soccer Ranking (NSR) doesn't have many of the teams even listed in their state or regional rankings:

Midwest - Kalamazoo Kingdom (#39 in region and #6 in state)
New England - BW Rhode Island (not listed in NSR)
Pacific Northwest - Spokane Shadow (not listed in NSR)
Pacific Northwest - Washington Crossfire (not listed in region; #4 in state)
Mid Atlantic - New Jersey Jr. Stallions (not listed)
South Atlantic - Northern Virginia Majestics (#31 in region and #4 in state)
South Atlantic - Atlanta Silverbacks (not listed in NSR)
Pacific North California - Capital Athletic Soccer Academy (#36 in region and #7 in state)
Pacific North California - DVSC - (#20 in region and #4 in state)
Southeast - Kendall SC (not listed)
Mid Atlantic - New York Rough Riders (not listed)
Southern California - Arsenal

Does anyone know much about the Super Y League? Is it developing? The competition for Arsenal is weak in this age group. National Soccer Ranking (NSR) doesn't have many of the teams even listed in their state or regional rankings:

Midwest - Kalamazoo Kingdom (#39 in region and #6 in state)
New England - BW Rhode Island (not listed in NSR)
Pacific Northwest - Spokane Shadow (not listed in NSR)
Pacific Northwest - Washington Crossfire (not listed in region; #4 in state)
Mid Atlantic - New Jersey Jr. Stallions (not listed)
South Atlantic - Northern Virginia Majestics (#31 in region and #4 in state)
South Atlantic - Atlanta Silverbacks (not listed in NSR)
Pacific North California - Capital Athletic Soccer Academy (#36 in region and #7 in state)
Pacific North California - DVSC - (#20 in region and #4 in state)
Southeast - Kendall SC (not listed)
Mid Atlantic - New York Rough Riders (not listed)
Southern California - Arsenal

whoa! did not know of those rankings, i will be sure to check them out later. i have seen that DVSC team in action they are not too shabby!

whoa! did not know of those rankings, i will be sure to check them out later. i have seen that DVSC team in action they are not too shabby!

Regardless of the competition if this tournament is by invitation only and Arsenal was invited they're representing Cal South, CSL and the Arsenal Club. They're family so go show them how we do it in Southern California.

Family or not you don't start something you have no intentions of finishing. Family starts at home.

The problem for Arsenal is they signed up for two tournaments. They did not know at the time that they would conflict. They thought Y league was during Surf Cup so they did not sign up for Surf Cup. Nothing sinister. If you want the scoop e-mail their manager.

The problem for Arsenal is they signed up for two tournaments. They did not know at the time that they would conflict. They thought Y league was during Surf Cup so they did not sign up for Surf Cup. Nothing sinister. If you want the scoop e-mail their manager.
We all know about Monte, he must of been at a bike show or something. He is the Gold SK and got his own thread as well (not nearly as nice as Presidio Dads). So I don't believe I'll be emailing him anytime soon.

LC play dates have been posted at CSL for months & months, They made a choice and in my opinion it was a bad one.

Do you know about the tournament? Is it a Nike event? Why would Arsenal go to a tournament like this where there is no competition? Most of the invited teams are not even ranked by National Socce Ranking. It just seems strange for such a high level team as Arsenal to go to a tournament and play with low level, easy teams.

Do you know about the tournament? Is it a Nike event? Why would Arsenal go to a tournament like this where there is no competition? Most of the invited teams are not even ranked by National Socce Ranking. It just seems strange for such a high level team as Arsenal to go to a tournament and play with low level, easy teams.

Th Gu 17s are sending the third place premier team to represent socal, the first two declined to go.. seems like lots of money and no competition....good luck Arsenal and all the teams from socal...

Family or not you don't start something you have no intentions of finishing. Family starts at home.

Full agreement here. I think our dueling days are over.

Family or not you don't start something you have no intentions of finishing. Family starts at home.
no one truely knows why they were in both tournies at the same time. they may have not been aware of the invite before they had signed up for LC and then it may have been to late to pull out, who knows. yet i understand why they went it is more exposure for the team. what i hear is the final will be televised on Fox soccer channel. which is great, so i think thats enough Arsenal bashin and lets wish them good luck and represent strong for Southern Cali!

no one truely knows why they were in both tournies at the same time. they may have not been aware of the invite before they had signed up for LC and then it may have been to late to pull out, who knows. yet i understand why they went it is more exposure for the team. what i hear is the final will be televised on Fox soccer channel. which is great, so i think thats enough Arsenal bashin and lets wish them good luck and represent strong for Southern Cali!

You want exposure play SURF, win CSL League Cup. It's not a bash it's a fact.

Full agreement here. I think our dueling days are over.

Sounds good to me.

You want exposure play SURF, win CSL League Cup. It's not a bash it's a fact.

surf is twice a year and it is not goin away. LC again same thing its there every year and are the finals televised. seriously it sounds like theres jelousy from the other clubs that they were not invited, i am sure Slammers would have tooken the invite. WIU i am not saying you are jelous in anyway so don't take thisw in the wrong way. seriously there is to much hating on Arsenal right now, maybe becuase they are on top right now.

surf is twice a year and it is not goin away. LC again same thing its there every year and are the finals televised. seriously it sounds like theres jelousy from the other clubs that they were not invited, i am sure Slammers would have tooken the invite. WIU i am not saying you are jelous in anyway so don't take thisw in the wrong way. seriously there is to much hating on Arsenal right now, maybe becuase they are on top right now.

Not taken the wrong way Volcom, Not jealous, very unhappy the way Arsenal left LC hanging, also I won't get to see them at Surf while they go to Florida to play lower ranked teams. It would make me very happy to see them sitting #1 on NSR but it won't happen if they don't win LC, SURF while beating up some orange juice cans in Florida.

Not taken the wrong way Volcom, Not jealous, very unhappy the way Arsenal left LC hanging, also I won't get to see them at Surf while they go to Florida to play lower ranked teams. It would make me very happy to see them sitting #1 on NSR but it won't happen if they don't win LC, SURF while beating up some orange juice cans in Florida.

yeah but like i have said before no one is sure the conditions they were in at the time of the decision making. thats clever orange juice cans. i undertsand where u are coming from when i am at surf and LC i like to see the top teams competing but on the other hand they are not obligated to fullfill other teams needs. if they do not want to play surf or LC they have the rigth to decline or in this case pull out whenever they feel necessary.

The problem for Arsenal is they signed up for two tournaments. They did not know at the time that they would conflict. They thought Y league was during Surf Cup so they did not sign up for Surf Cup. Nothing sinister. If you want the scoop e-mail their manager.

I have found that you can be counted on to tell it like it is. Mistakes happen that's the bottom line.

surf is twice a year and it is not goin away. LC again same thing its there every year and are the finals televised. seriously it sounds like theres jelousy from the other clubs that they were not invited, i am sure Slammers would have tooken the invite. WIU i am not saying you are jelous in anyway so don't take thisw in the wrong way. seriously there is to much hating on Arsenal right now, maybe becuase they are on top right now.
Arsenal was invited to go based on winning GU14 gold league. If Arsenal declined then Slammers would have been invited, and so on down the rankings until a team accepts. I am not sure Slammers would have gone if invited. Maybe Arsenal should compete in the next older age group since there is a vacancy for Southern California and have Slammers represent their age group.

Arsenal was invited to go based on winning GU14 gold league. If Arsenal declined then Slammers would have been invited, and so on down the rankings until a team accepts. I am not sure Slammers would have gone if invited. Maybe Arsenal should compete in the next older age group since there is a vacancy for Southern California and have Slammers represent their age group.

Now that's a thought.

Now that's a thought.
It was a nice thought until I looked at Surf Cup teams and saw Slammers are scheduled to play in Bracket A. RSC and Eagles are playing in the same bracket. The remaining gold teams are playing for LC championship. To late for any gold team to go and Arsenal to play up.

It was a nice thought until I looked at Surf Cup teams and saw Slammers are scheduled to play in Bracket A. RSC and Eagles are playing in the same bracket. The remaining gold teams are playing for LC championship. To late for any gold team to go and Arsenal to play up.
Arsenal won league.. so they should go to Tampa and have a chance at winning there own age group. Got and get em' girls. Bring back home a win for Cal Shouth! (and no.. im not an arsenal parent) boomer

Arsenal was invited to go based on winning GU14 gold league. If Arsenal declined then Slammers would have been invited, and so on down the rankings until a team accepts. I am not sure Slammers would have gone if invited. Maybe Arsenal should compete in the next older age group since there is a vacancy for Southern California and have Slammers represent their age group.
yeah i knew that is why they were invited and i knew that if declined Slammers would have been next on the list. i would'nt doubt slammers picking up the invite for Tampa. as well that is a great idea maybe they should play up a year.

Arsenal won league.. so they should go to Tampa and have a chance at winning there own age group. Got and get em' girls. Bring back home a win for Cal Shouth! (and no.. im not an arsenal parent) boomer
yeah you do not have to be an Arsenal parent to support Cal South. so right on go Cal South! go Arsenal!!!

yeah you do not have to be an Arsenal parent to support Cal South. so right on go Cal South! go Arsenal!!!

Like I said, better competition at home. Arsenal wins 1st game 6-0.

Like I said, better competition at home. Arsenal wins 1st game 6-0.

Line them cans up

Like I said, better competition at home. Arsenal wins 1st game 6-0.
After 2 games
Arsenal 2-0-0
Goals for 10
Against 0

Exciting games I'm sure.

After 2 games
Arsenal 2-0-0
Goals for 10
Against 0

Exciting games I'm sure.

3 games in

Arsenal 3-0-0
Goals for 16
Against 1

Is there anyone out there that would argue that Arsenal is facing tougher competition in Florida at the "super y national championship" than they would have faced at Surf? No way Arsenal would have had that same goal differential at Surf. C'mon, tell me I'm wrong.
Presidio Dad...do you also go by the name of PD, or PDiddy?Speak to me What is Up, Volcomrage, Woo, Play good soccer, Soccerature, Goodtimes, Play with passion,OC slowpoke,

3 games in

Arsenal 3-0-0
Goals for 16
Against 1

Is there anyone out there that would argue that Arsenal is facing tougher competition in Florida at the "super y national championship" than they would have faced at Surf? No way Arsenal would have had that same goal differential at Surf. C'mon, tell me I'm wrong.
Presidio Dad...do you also go by the name of PD, or PDiddy?Speak to me What is Up, Volcomrage, Woo, Play good soccer, Soccerature, Goodtimes, Play with passion,OC slowpoke,

Only one team happy Arsenal is in Florida and it is the Blues. Ratings must be great for the TV broadcast wonder how they gave up a goal maybe an OG just to wake up the keep would have like to see them finish out league and head to Surf and play the same great teams.

3 games in

Arsenal 3-0-0
Goals for 16
Against 1

Is there anyone out there that would argue that Arsenal is facing tougher competition in Florida at the "super y national championship" than they would have faced at Surf? No way Arsenal would have had that same goal differential at Surf. C'mon, tell me I'm wrong.
Presidio Dad...do you also go by the name of PD, or PDiddy?Speak to me What is Up, Volcomrage, Woo, Play good soccer, Soccerature, Goodtimes, Play with passion,OC slowpoke,

Why isn't Arsenal in Surf? It doesn't seem to conflict with the Super Y tournament play days?

I heard Arsenal thought the Y league thing was the same weekened as Surf Girl's Cup when they had to sign up.

The competition level at SGC will be much tougher than Y league.

Why isn't Arsenal in Surf? It doesn't seem to conflict with the Super Y tournament play days?

Arsenal will not be at Surf Cup because of a prior committment to the super y "world games".

Bracket A

Arsenal
Somalia
Afganistan
Kasikstan

Iran will forgo "world championship" to enter Surf Cup where better competition will be found.

A better name would be Super Y.....Go World games

3 games in

Arsenal 3-0-0
Goals for 16
Against 1

Is there anyone out there that would argue that Arsenal is facing tougher competition in Florida at the "super y national championship" than they would have faced at Surf? No way Arsenal would have had that same goal differential at Surf. C'mon, tell me I'm wrong.
Presidio Dad...do you also go by the name of PD, or PDiddy?Speak to me What is Up, Volcomrage, Woo, Play good soccer, Soccerature, Goodtimes, Play with passion,OC slowpoke,


I'm with you Golden. No argument from me on your assessment of the competition.

Do you know about the tournament? Is it a Nike event? Why would Arsenal go to a tournament like this where there is no competition? Most of the invited teams are not even ranked by National Socce Ranking. It just seems strange for such a high level team as Arsenal to go to a tournament and play with low level, easy teams.

Arsenal knows it can win at these hyped-up tournies. Let's face it, Arsenal has not done so well when they have had to play for more than a game a day. Maybe it is a conditioning or a focus issue?

Lower competition, lower expecations, all under the ruse of being an invitational tourney. CYSA just wants to all back there how we can whoop em.

Lower competition, lower expecations, all under the ruse of being an invitational tourney. CYSA just wants to all back there how we can whoop em.

Does CYSA have anything to do with this tournamnet?

Does CYSA have anything to do with this tournamnet?

Tournament (sp)

After 2 games
Arsenal 2-0-0
Goals for 10
Against 0

Exciting games I'm sure.

After 4 games
Arsenal 4-0-0
Goals for 20
Against 1

Best in the world?

After 4 games
Arsenal 4-0-0
Goals for 20
Against 1

Best in the world?

39 posts...They're there, and you're not!
Stop Crying!
There is good soccer being played in other parts of this great land of ours.
When they signed up, they didn't know who would be there, nor who would be at GSC.

I knew who was going to be at SURF, only many/most of the best teams in CA. and the Nation (just like last year and the year before...) with the rare exception of some out of country (enjoy SD, Give us your $$$ and go home and spread the word about the teams and tourney) team. I also know Surf White will always have the cakewalk to the semis.

39 posts...They're there, and you're not!
Stop Crying!
There is good soccer being played in other parts of this great land of ours.
When they signed up, they didn't know who would be there, nor who would be at GSC.

A. Our team was invited and took a pass
B. Didn't I just say "best in the world"?
C. Do you understand satire when you read it?
D. There is NOT the same level of soccer being played in this great land of
ours. Scoreboard.

A. Our team was invited and took a pass
B. Didn't I just say "best in the world"?
C. Do you understand satire when you read it?
D. There is NOT the same level of soccer being played in this great land of
ours. Scoreboard.

you must be speaking of another age group, when you say that your team was invited because only the league champ was to be invited and Arsenal has been the gold league champ for three years straight now.

you must be speaking of another age group, when you say that your team was invited because only the league champ was to be invited and Arsenal has been the gold league champ for three years straight now.

Many props to you vcr, but I know of what I speak. This was the plan as I understood it to be: Arsenal was to play up in the "14" division.(Note the missing SoCal "14" rep), and more than 1 team passed on the chance to go back and represent as the "13"s.

Many props to you vcr, but I know of what I speak. This was the plan as I understood it to be: Arsenal was to play up in the "14" division.(Note the missing SoCal "14" rep), and more than 1 team passed on the chance to go back and represent as the "13"s.

oh i see i understand. it looks like Arsenal won the whole thing is what i hear. they played the final not long ago and won.

Many props to you vcr, but I know of what I speak. This was the plan as I understood it to be: Arsenal was to play up in the "14" division.(Note the missing SoCal "14" rep), and more than 1 team passed on the chance to go back and represent as the "13"s.

oh i forgot to mention that im sure you are apart one of the bigger club in gold which would either be RSC or Slammers, am i right? From what i hear if Arsenal did not take the invite it would go down the line as in the way league ended.

you must be speaking of another age group, when you say that your team was invited because only the league champ was to be invited and Arsenal has been the gold league champ for three years straight now.

At u17 and u16 the first and second place premier teams were invited to Florida for super why?. The 1st place, u16 RSC team chose to attend, the other three teams decided not to go....the u17's sent the third place premier team to represent socal...they are in the finals....

here's the link:
http://www.coastsoccer.com/index.php?ct=nw000074

At u17 and u16 the first and second place premier teams were invited to Florida for super why?. The 1st place, u16 RSC team chose to attend, the other three teams decided not to go....the u17's sent the third place premier team to represent socal...they are in the finals....

here's the link:
http://www.coastsoccer.com/index.php?ct=nw000074

For this age group the only invites that were given first was to be to the league champs after that i have no idea.

For this age group the only invites that were given first was to be to the league champs after that i have no idea.

I did some reading on the Super Y-League and the composition of the teams is simple. The league was built for teams who were outside of competitive leagues geographically. So, for the most part teams who are not competitive teams. The league gave these teams an opportunity to compete in some form or fashion. But, these are not strong teams. Because of who is backing this league and their relationship with some of the top guys in CSL, they struck a deal to include CSL teams in hopes of building the league. CSL IS the competition in this league. The other teams bring nothing to the table. The CSL teams are being used as pawns to try and build a league that can rival the other top tournaments, mainly USYSA. And we all know of the war still raging with those two organizations. The other is US Club Soccer, which is still a small fraction of USYSA, although I understand the boys brackets have some good teams in some age groups. So, this is about business. Not competition, yet. They are hoping they take out USYSA and build to that level. It is not prestigious either, yet. Maybe in a few years in they are successful. But, the majority of teams in the tournament are a step above recreation. CSL is going to try and create some sort of fund to help teams travel knowing that long term, it will put a lot of money in their pockets if it is successful. Just a little insight. I was getting tired or reading the silly banter going back and forth regarding the subject.

Just stay out of the thread if you do not like the banter, nothing personal.

I did some reading on the Super Y-League and the composition of the teams is simple. The league was built for teams who were outside of competitive leagues geographically. So, for the most part teams who are not competitive teams. The league gave these teams an opportunity to compete in some form or fashion. But, these are not strong teams. Because of who is backing this league and their relationship with some of the top guys in CSL, they struck a deal to include CSL teams in hopes of building the league. CSL IS the competition in this league. The other teams bring nothing to the table. The CSL teams are being used as pawns to try and build a league that can rival the other top tournaments, mainly USYSA. And we all know of the war still raging with those two organizations. The other is US Club Soccer, which is still a small fraction of USYSA, although I understand the boys brackets have some good teams in some age groups. So, this is about business. Not competition, yet. They are hoping they take out USYSA and build to that level. It is not prestigious either, yet. Maybe in a few years in they are successful. But, the majority of teams in the tournament are a step above recreation. CSL is going to try and create some sort of fund to help teams travel knowing that long term, it will put a lot of money in their pockets if it is successful. Just a little insight. I was getting tired or reading the silly banter going back and forth regarding the subject.

Final

Arsenal 2
DVSC 1

Goals for 22
Against 2

After 4 games
Arsenal 4-0-0
Goals for 20
Against 1

Best in the world?
Let's wait until July 29th to crown Arsenal as best in the world.

Actually in GU17 it was the 4th place team who went. The others turned it down. Wolfpack lost to Chicago Magic today.

Timing and cost are big factors.

At u17 and u16 the first and second place premier teams were invited to Florida for super why?. The 1st place, u16 RSC team chose to attend, the other three teams decided not to go....the u17's sent the third place premier team to represent socal...they are in the finals....

here's the link:
http://www.coastsoccer.com/index.php?ct=nw000074

I did some reading on the Super Y-League and the composition of the teams is simple. The league was built for teams who were outside of competitive leagues geographically. So, for the most part teams who are not competitive teams. The league gave these teams an opportunity to compete in some form or fashion. But, these are not strong teams. Because of who is backing this league and their relationship with some of the top guys in CSL, they struck a deal to include CSL teams in hopes of building the league. CSL IS the competition in this league. The other teams bring nothing to the table. The CSL teams are being used as pawns to try and build a league that can rival the other top tournaments, mainly USYSA. And we all know of the war still raging with those two organizations. The other is US Club Soccer, which is still a small fraction of USYSA, although I understand the boys brackets have some good teams in some age groups. So, this is about business. Not competition, yet. They are hoping they take out USYSA and build to that level. It is not prestigious either, yet. Maybe in a few years in they are successful. But, the majority of teams in the tournament are a step above recreation. CSL is going to try and create some sort of fund to help teams travel knowing that long term, it will put a lot of money in their pockets if it is successful. Just a little insight. I was getting tired or reading the silly banter going back and forth regarding the subject.

you must have a point since Arsenal did run away with this tourny. well now that i think about it, they ran away with league almost in the same way. but like i said before that DVSC team is not shabby and maybe the final result shows how well the DVSC team plays.

Let's wait until July 29th to crown Arsenal as best in the world.
exactly they have yet proven themselves in Nationals and until then i will give them the credit they seem too deserve.

Arsenal's time is now. They can and will win national cup.

Arsenal's time is now. They can and will win national cup.
Arsenal should be considered the favorite to win National Cup. However, League Cup results show how anything can, and sometimes does, happen when these very competitive teams get together in a tournament.

Arsenal should be considered the favorite to win National Cup. However, League Cup results show how anything can, and sometimes does, happen when these very competitive teams get together in a tournament.

PGS I stand corrected. League Cup is a darn good example of Competitive Teams Gone Wild.

Arsenal's time is now. They can and will win national cup.

Arsenal has been one of the favorites to win nationals before and look how they all ended up. they made it to the final last year and could not get the job done.

Arsenal has been one of the favorites to win nationals before and look how they all ended up. they made it to the final last year and could not get the job done.

As I said anything can happen when competitive teams go wild but I still believe Arsenal can win it. RSC is looking fantastic. My guess is that National Cup will come down to Arsenal and RSC with Arsenal taking the win.

what happened in Florida. Heard a crazy story about fighting in rooms & black eyes? what's the 411?

what happened in Florida. Heard a crazy story about fighting in rooms & black eyes? what's the 411?

Arsenal is a competitive team with players competing with each other. Sometimes it resorts to catfights and slugging contests off the field.

what happened in Florida. Heard a crazy story about fighting in rooms & black eyes? what's the 411?

how in the world, if indeed somthing like this happened, would leak out to the rest of the u14 parents?

how in the world, if indeed somthing like this happened, would leak out to the rest of the u14 parents?

Its called parents and kids on the team. How can you not talk about giving your mate a black eye and trying to scratch their eyes out. Very few can keep a secret in club soccer.

Its called parents and kids on the team. How can you not talk about giving your mate a black eye and trying to scratch their eyes out. Very few can keep a secret in club soccer.

come on people - its getting crazy out there and it's not even the siilly season yet!

come on people - its getting crazy out there and it's not even the siilly season yet!

Unfortunately the craziness continues throughout the year. argu1

There are lucky strike teams that would rather fight than switch