Homer refs make the difference?

Homer refs make the difference?

Please explain.

Please explain.

I heard a questionable foul call in the box early on in the game led to a pk at So Cal home.

I heard a questionable foul call in the box early on in the game led to a pk at So Cal home.Sounds like a true to form Eagle parent. Your complaining about a questionable call that led to a pk when that is the only way your team will win games at home. Please remove the log from thine own eye before you talk about the splinter in So Cal Real's. You're club is the master of homer calls. lzre lzre lzre

I still don't know about "homer refs" but there are bad ones. It just seems worse if you are on the road as it appears to be homering. More times than not some refs just stink.

I still don't know about "homer refs" but there are bad ones. It just seems worse if you are on the road as it appears to be homering. More times than not some refs just stink.All I'm saying is don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. Yes, bad refs are every where but seem to be in abundance at the Eagle fieldssmile1 .

All I'm saying is don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. Yes, bad refs are every where but seem to be in abundance at the Eagle fieldssmile1 .

I have heard some Eagle Ref stories. Eagles will get a chance to even the series at their home.

All I'm saying is don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. Yes, bad refs are every where but seem to be in abundance at the Eagle fieldssmile1 .

Don't throw stones is great advice...try using it! The ref's for Eagles and SoCal are from the same association....go figure....

For one thing, obviously there is no physical fitness requirement for refs. Both centers today and yesterday had be be at least 80 lbs overweight...and that's being nice.

I guess they call it "center" ref cuz these guys aren't able to move from the center of the field.

I guess they call it "center" ref cuz these guys aren't able to move from the center of the field.

The stuck in the middle syndrome did hit this weekend. Saw a goalie come out of the box to pick up the ball 3 times in a single game, while the ref saw nothing. The AR was oblivous too. For my own info: is that a call an AR should make if the center ref doesn't see it?

The stuck in the middle syndrome did hit this weekend. Saw a goalie come out of the box to pick up the ball 3 times in a single game, while the ref saw nothing. The AR was oblivous too. For my own info: is that a call an AR should make if the center ref doesn't see it?

Absolutely. In fact it's a call generally made by the AR since they should be lined up with the ball or the 2nd to the last defender. In this case, the ball.

Player was clearly tripped in the box with a wide open lane to the goal. It was a good call. The game was a good one and the Eagles have a home game to get their revenge.

Either way good luck and nice win over Del Mar yesterday.

Once again that massive chip the Eagles have on their shoulder is showing itself! They will always be in the shadow of SoCal Real never matching up. Its obvious that this continues to eat at them. Poor little birdies!rofl

Once again that massive chip the Eagles have on their shoulder is showing itself! They will always be in the shadow of SoCal Real never matching up. Its obvious that this continues to eat at them. Poor little birdies!lmao.gif" border="0" alt="" title="rofl" smilieid="77" class="inlineimg" />

Eagles have some good teams and some good parents (parents great for these boards!) Look Verge came in and his first post was on the Eagles. Verge saw it as an outright trip while the first poster saw it as a "Homer Ref"
In any case we need more insight from all so keep posting. I would love to read anyone, even if they have a chip on there shoulder as long as it has to do with the sport of SO CAL Soccer and not bickering coaches, directors, parents along with stories of lurid affairs and bogus claims of any nature.

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NICE POST!!!! Next time you come on here to RAG on another club, learn how to post....
bxing boomer fnny wacko lzre lzre lzre lzre lzre

NICE POST!!!! Next time you come on here to RAG on another club, learn how to post....
bxing boomer fnny wacko lzre lzre lzre lzre lzrePretty tough tslk for a kitten. Don't worry the Eagle have some home games coming. anjul1

Pretty tough tslk for a kitten. Don't worry the Eagle have some home games coming. anjul1

That's a good start.......lzre

We don't have home games lady. We play all our games in SJC....

That's a good start.......lzre

We don't have home games lady. We play all our games in SJC....

Lion Eyes should that be Lying Eyes because if you are reffering that you are a Premier Parent (which by the way the Eagles have 3 tremendous premier teams, all first place) I think of two things. First right now we have not been at SJC and rather @ UCI (until this weekend). Therefor not all games are at SJC, second your stirring a pot in a thread you do not have a kid in.

Lion Eyes should that be Lying Eyes because if you are reffering that you are a Premier Parent (which by the way the Eagles have 3 tremendous premier teams, all first place) I think of two things. First right now we have not been at SJC and rather @ UCI (until this weekend). Therefor not all games are at SJC, second your stirring a pot in a thread you do not have a kid in.

WIU you're right about everything...except stirring the pot..the pot was boiling when I got to it....I should ignore the old lady from socalunited, I thought perhaps once they merged with Samba her pettiness would cease....I was wrong and I'll go back to my dd's UCI/SJC age group, where I belong........sorry I butted into to your thread...good luck to all and good luck dealing with the old windbag from socalunitedsambarealsocal...

WIU you're right about everything...except stirring the pot..the pot was boiling when I got to it....I should ignore the old lady from socalunited, I thought perhaps once they merged with Samba her pettiness would cease....I was wrong and I'll go back to my dd's UCI/SJC age group, where I belong........sorry I butted into to your thread...good luck to all and good luck dealing with the old windbag from socalunitedsambarealsocal...

Well, I respect honesty

Player was clearly tripped in the box with a wide open lane to the goal. It was a good call. The game was a good one and the Eagles have a home game to get their revenge.

Either way good luck and nice win over Del Mar yesterday.

Good call or bad the Eagles did not get a goal against Real SoCal. The players did not get flustered either. Let's see how Eagles stand after this coming weekend. Slammers on Saturday and Arsenal on Sunday, both are home games. Two wins against the two SES teams are good, but how they play against established gold teams will be an indication if they remain gold

Playing established teams is the main problem for the newly promoted. Established teams have already learned to play at this level and have recruited better players leading to a deeper bench. Newly promoted teams have to rely much more on their starters.

Sounds like a true to form Eagle parent. Your complaining about a questionable call that led to a pk when that is the only way your team will win games at home. Please remove the log from thine own eye before you talk about the splinter in So Cal Real's. You're club is the master of homer calls. lzre lzre lzre

Sounds like a true to form So Cal parent. Anytime anyone hears about anything that may not be in So Cals favor they are an automatic Eagle parent. Not an Eagle parent here. Just posting a question about what I heard. You might want to check out your local anger management meeting to get that chip (eagle) knocked off your shoulder.

It seems like most top players in area seem to end up on the Eagles. I base this on the Eagles 3 premier girls teams (16,17,19) in first place with no losses after 2 weeks. Not too many Homer referees for any VC club down in Irvine & San Juan Cap.

Playing established teams is the main problem for the newly promoted. Established teams have already learned to play at this level and have recruited better players leading to a deeper bench. Newly promoted teams have to rely much more on their starters.


Boy isn't that the truth at all levels. Just search the standings, it's amazing to see so many newly promoted teams struggle to stay alive among established teams in almost every level and every age group.

Boy isn't that the truth at all levels. Just search the standings, it's amazing to see so many newly promoted teams struggle to stay alive among established teams in almost every level and every age group.It will most likely take more than some wins against newly
promoted teams to survive gold. I guess that will be the true test.

Boy isn't that the truth at all levels. Just search the standings, it's amazing to see so many newly promoted teams struggle to stay alive among established teams in almost every level and every age group.
I know that Del Mar is struggling with injury issues. That is one of the problem's when you play two tough games in a weekend -- you can fall behind fast! I think the Blues are having the same problem but at least they have won a few games!

I know that Del Mar is struggling with injury issues. That is one of the problem's when you play two tough games in a weekend -- you can fall behind fast! I think the Blues are having the same problem but at least they have won a few games!

Blues started the season playing Slammers and Arsenal. Two losses, both shutouts. They played Sharks and Strikers the next next weekend and won both games 1-0. Scoring goals looks to be their current need. How many players are hurt? This weekend is another test since the Blues play SoCal and Infinity. Eagles play Slammers and Arsenal this weekend. Let's see how they do.

I can't add anything on the home ref issue but I have seen the Eagles play once during league so far. Very deceptive team...they actually have some pretty quick girls. They are somewhat aggressive though nowhere near as agressive as Arsenal and Real So Cal but they're getting there. They're a scrappy team and they play well together. No I'm not an Eagle parent just an observer. There's a lot of talent and speed in the U14 age group. Five or six girls still stand out as the top U14 players though.

I can't add anything on the home ref issue but I have seen the Eagles play once during league so far. Very deceptive team...they actually have some pretty quick girls. They are somewhat aggressive though nowhere near as agressive as Arsenal and Real So Cal but they're getting there. They're a scrappy team and they play well together. No I'm not an Eagle parent just an observer. There's a lot of talent and speed in the U14 age group. Five or six girls still stand out as the top U14 players though.

Are the Eagles for real? RSC goes ahead early on a pk(again). Eagles com back to win 3-1. RSC player ejected with 2 yellows AFTER Eagles go ahead 3-1 for the win.

Once again that massive chip the Eagles have on their shoulder is showing itself! They will always be in the shadow of SoCal Real never matching up. Its obvious that this continues to eat at them. Poor little birdies!lmao.gif" border="0" alt="" title="rofl" smilieid="77" class="inlineimg" />

You are just not believable at this time . The winds they are a changing.

You are just not believable at this time . The winds they are a changing.


Rivalry's are a good thing as long as the parents don't get out of hand. The Eagels vs SoCalUnited/RSC is one of the best and it makes those kids step up when they play each other. Remember this year RSC lost to the Eagles 3-1 and I'm sure the Eagles were extatic as they have been trying to beat that team for 5 years.

They are now setup for a rematch at Girls Surf Cup this month which should be a great game.

Rivalry's are a good thing as long as the parents don't get out of hand. The Eagels vs SoCalUnited/RSC is one of the best and it makes those kids step up when they play each other. Remember this year RSC lost to the Eagles 3-1 and I'm sure the Eagles were extatic as they have been trying to beat that team for 5 years.

They are now setup for a rematch at Girls Surf Cup this month which should be a great game.

Eagles are in Surf? Did a team drop out? If so who? It should be a great game.

Eagles are in Surf? Did a team drop out? If so who? It should be a great game.

Utah team dropped out last week, RSC and Eagles are in the same bracket and scheduled to play each other first.

Utah team dropped out last week, RSC and Eagles are in the same bracket and scheduled to play each other first.
Get to the corner of fields 17 & 18 on Friday at 8:20 and see the GU14 teams play. Some tune up games can be seen at Oaks Polo Fields on 11/12 and 11/18.

Get to the corner of fields 17 & 18 on Friday at 8:20 and see the GU14 teams play. Some tune up games can be seen at Oaks Polo Fields on 11/12 and 11/18.

for sure thats goin to be an apealing game to watch. the few times i have watched the Eagles play i can say they are hard nosed and hustle to they drop. on the other hand RSC is RSC and there are no strings attached. i see RSC coming up big without a doubt.

for sure thats goin to be an apealing game to watch. the few times i have watched the Eagles play i can say they are hard nosed and hustle to they drop. on the other hand RSC is RSC and there are no strings attached. i see RSC coming up big without a doubt.

Except for the fact that their top Center mid is not going to be there, it looks like she made the Regional Roster and will be in Coral Springs.
http://regioniv.com/odp/odpannGIRLS/111306.pdf
I still think RSC will take this game anyway, one player doesn't make the team.

Except for the fact that their top Center mid is not going to be there, it looks like she made the Regional Roster and will be in Coral Springs.
http://regioniv.com/odp/odpannGIRLS/111306.pdf
I still think RSC will take this game anyway, one player doesn't make the team.
While RSC has plenty of talent, the absence of this player may make a difference.

Oh I get it, Eagles V So Cal at Surf. So Cal Is going to be ready, I'll take DA Eagles

Oh I get it, Eagles V So Cal at Surf. So Cal Is going to be ready, I'll take DA Eagles

I got a starbucks on RSC! :)

Except for the fact that their top Center mid is not going to be there, it looks like she made the Regional Roster and will be in Coral Springs.
http://regioniv.com/odp/odpannGIRLS/111306.pdf
I still think RSC will take this game anyway, one player doesn't make the team.
Unfortunately, that one does. She has missed a few games this year, and RSC's results weren't so good when she was gone!

Except for the fact that their top Center mid is not going to be there, it looks like she made the Regional Roster and will be in Coral Springs.
http://regioniv.com/odp/odpannGIRLS/111306.pdf
I still think RSC will take this game anyway, one player doesn't make the team.

whoa whoa buddy if its the midfielder i am thinking about it makes a HUGE difference. i have RSC without her and they are seriously lost without her. if it is #9 we are tlaking about then i might change my prediction.

whoa whoa buddy if its the midfielder i am thinking about it makes a HUGE difference. i have RSC without her and they are seriously lost without her. if it is #9 we are tlaking about then i might change my prediction.

Sorry Virge, no changing teams.

Unfortunately, that one does. She has missed a few games this year, and RSC's results weren't so good when she was gone!

If I were one of the RSC players I would be very angry and hurt by your remark. One player should not make the difference, especially among a group of such fine athletes!

If I were one of the RSC players I would be very angry and hurt by your remark. One player should not make the difference, especially among a group of such fine athletes!
You underlined "not", perhaps you should have underlined "should". On a strong team, no player should have that impact. I certainly didn't want to "hurt" any of the players on that team, nor make them angry, but it's the truth. Years of dependence on a player just leaves a vacuum when the player is missing. Perhaps the team will rise above it, and your bet will be secure.
Good luck!

You underlined "not", perhaps you should have underlined "should". On a strong team, no player should have that impact. I certainly didn't want to "hurt" any of the players on that team, nor make them angry, but it's the truth. Years of dependence on a player just leaves a vacuum when the player is missing. Perhaps the team will rise above it, and your bet will be secure.
Good luck!

This player has been at several games in which RSC was beaten or barely tied. Which proves my point that it takes a team not just one player. If this one player was to go missing there are others on this team that could do just as well, given the opportunity.

This player has been at several games in which RSC was beaten or barely tied. Which proves my point that it takes a team not just one player. If this one player was to go missing there are others on this team that could do just as well, given the opportunity.
You know I could be very wrong about this. I have grudging admiration for the player. Because she is so good she gets a lot of negative buzz. I believe she is a very good player, perhaps dominating, an impactful player on a good team.
The team lost three times in league this year, once to Arsenal, once to Eagles, when she got two yellows and left the game and once to Slammers the next day, when she didn't play.
I think the team depends on her and doesn't play as well when she is missing. I'm not sure that "shouldn't" be the case. How good is Arsenal without Henry? Barca without Ronaldinho? Liverpool without Stevie G.?
I'm just recognizing that dominating players exist, and I believe that she is one. I fail to see how this may anger or hurt any of the young ladies on the team. In fact, I think they may already know this.

You know I could be very wrong about this. I have grudging admiration for the player. Because she is so good she gets a lot of negative buzz. I believe she is a very good player, perhaps dominating, an impactful player on a good team.
The team lost three times in league this year, once to Arsenal, once to Eagles, when she got two yellows and left the game and once to Slammers the next day, when she didn't play.
I think the team depends on her and doesn't play as well when she is missing. I'm not sure that "shouldn't" be the case. How good is Arsenal without Henry? Barca without Ronaldinho? Liverpool without Stevie G.?
I'm just recognizing that dominating players exist, and I believe that she is one. I fail to see how this may anger or hurt any of the young ladies on the team. In fact, I think they may already know this.

When this player left the game against the Eagles, RSC was already down 3-1. I am not putting this player down as she is a very good player but no longer impacts like she used to in the past. Part of the reason is that their other players have developed skill wise as have the players from the other teams whom she can no longer dominate as she used to in the past.

You know I could be very wrong about this. I have grudging admiration for the player. Because she is so good she gets a lot of negative buzz. I believe she is a very good player, perhaps dominating, an impactful player on a good team.
The team lost three times in league this year, once to Arsenal, once to Eagles, when she got two yellows and left the game and once to Slammers the next day, when she didn't play.
I think the team depends on her and doesn't play as well when she is missing. I'm not sure that "shouldn't" be the case. How good is Arsenal without Henry? Barca without Ronaldinho? Liverpool without Stevie G.?
I'm just recognizing that dominating players exist, and I believe that she is one. I fail to see how this may anger or hurt any of the young ladies on the team. In fact, I think they may already know this.
Maybe the others should be given more credit?

The day RSC lost to the Eagles and that player left the field it was already 3-1, and little time was left, which means she didn't make the difference. The loss for the following day was probably because slammers usually wins.

You know I could be very wrong about this. I have grudging admiration for the player. Because she is so good she gets a lot of negative buzz. I believe she is a very good player, perhaps dominating, an impactful player on a good team.
The team lost three times in league this year, once to Arsenal, once to Eagles, when she got two yellows and left the game and once to Slammers the next day, when she didn't play.
I think the team depends on her and doesn't play as well when she is missing. I'm not sure that "shouldn't" be the case. How good is Arsenal without Henry? Barca without Ronaldinho? Liverpool without Stevie G.?
I'm just recognizing that dominating players exist, and I believe that she is one. I fail to see how this may anger or hurt any of the young ladies on the team. In fact, I think they may already know this.

The fact that she's the only U14 to make the 92 ODP Regional roster speaks for itself, but I have to agree that a team has to play as a team to win. Same goes for those you listed above.

I still say RSC wins this Surf game without her as they still have great players and more of an offense than Eagles. Only time will tell.

The fact that she's the only U14 to make the 92 ODP Regional roster speaks for itself, but I have to agree that a team has to play as a team to win. Same goes for those you listed above.

I still say RSC wins this Surf game without her as they still have great players and more of an offense than Eagles. Only time will tell.

I have to give the edge to RSC due to the deepness of their bench and because offensively their wides use their forwards much more effectively. The Eagle wides have yet to grasp this team concept which in turn has limited the Eagle offense.

I have to give the edge to RSC due to the deepness of their bench and because offensively their wides use their forwards much more effectively. The Eagle wides have yet to grasp this team concept which in turn has limited the Eagle offense.

You sure seem to know this team well! Perhaps one of those wides you so freely critic is your own DD?
NOT NICE!

You sure seem to know this team well! Perhaps one of those wides you so freely critic is your own DD?
NOT NICE!

I was merely stating that the wides and forwards have not started working together. I t was not meant as a criticism but merely as to why RSC has an offensive edge over the Eagles. When the Eagle wides and forwards commence working together then at that point in time, the Eagles will be able to present a formidable offensive threat. As it now stands the forwards are not scoring, which is the result of the aformentioned. You can't score if you don't have the ball. This was not intended as a criticism or slam against any of the players.

I was merely stating that the wides and forwards have not started working together. I t was not meant as a criticism but merely as to why RSC has an offensive edge over the Eagles. When the Eagle wides and forwards commence working together then at that point in time, the Eagles will be able to present a formidable offensive threat. As it now stands the forwards are not scoring, which is the result of the aformentioned. You can't score if you don't have the ball. This was not intended as a criticism or slam against any of the players.

Say that again!

You sure seem to know this team well! Perhaps one of those wides you so freely critic is your own DD?
NOT NICE!

It is a common practice to talk about your team thru board posts in order for it to get back to those who have the coaches ear. I'm not saying it is the case here but it would not be the first if it was.

You know I could be very wrong about this. I have grudging admiration for the player. Because she is so good she gets a lot of negative buzz. I believe she is a very good player, perhaps dominating, an impactful player on a good team.
The team lost three times in league this year, once to Arsenal, once to Eagles, when she got two yellows and left the game and once to Slammers the next day, when she didn't play.
I think the team depends on her and doesn't play as well when she is missing. I'm not sure that "shouldn't" be the case. How good is Arsenal without Henry? Barca without Ronaldinho? Liverpool without Stevie G.?
I'm just recognizing that dominating players exist, and I believe that she is one. I fail to see how this may anger or hurt any of the young ladies on the team. In fact, I think they may already know this.

hey she is without a doubt the most impact player on her team and no one can deny that fact. she is an amazing player but dominate eeeh not as much as people think. they are very young so we can not say dominant so much. she was very dominant when everyone was half her size but not to take away from her amazing talent. i always enjoy the battles her and my kid have against each other when they play.

I was merely stating that the wides and forwards have not started working together. I t was not meant as a criticism but merely as to why RSC has an offensive edge over the Eagles. When the Eagle wides and forwards commence working together then at that point in time, the Eagles will be able to present a formidable offensive threat. As it now stands the forwards are not scoring, which is the result of the aformentioned. You can't score if you don't have the ball. This was not intended as a criticism or slam against any of the players.
I watched many games last Sat & Sun. The wides and forwards on many of the winning teams did not do much, some just stood and watched, until she had the ball at her feet. No running to space before the pass was made or cutting into the passing lane to create one touch scoring opportunities. I do agree with your comment about woring together and the results it creates.

hey she is without a doubt the most impact player on her team and no one can deny that fact. she is an amazing player but dominate eeeh not as much as people think. they are very young so we can not say dominant so much. she was very dominant when everyone was half her size but not to take away from her amazing talent. i always enjoy the battles her and my kid have against each other when they play.

A quick mid can shut her down no problem, but don't give up a set shot or a corner.

It is a common practice to talk about your team thru board posts in order for it to get back to those who have the coaches ear. I'm not saying it is the case here but it would not be the first if it was.

If the problem is so great, shouldn't people cut out the middle guy and speak to the coach about their concerns? Many times the coach is already aware of these players, but seniority or parent pressure keeps the erring players in their spots. When the coach is pressured by more than one parent, then the scale starts to tip in the opposite direction. Ultimately it is the coaches responsibilty to organize his team, and make the proper adjustments. November 27th is fast approaching....... the time is ripe!
These young ladies are just doing what they can, according to their abilities, and whom they are given to play alongside with.

hey she is without a doubt the most impact player on her team and no one can deny that fact. she is an amazing player but dominate eeeh not as much as people think. they are very young so we can not say dominant so much. she was very dominant when everyone was half her size but not to take away from her amazing talent. i always enjoy the battles her and my kid have against each other when they play.

Real needs to learn how to play without her

A quick mid can shut her down no problem, but don't give up a set shot or a corner.

Don't give her any clean shots from anywhere within 35 yards for that matter and forget about winning any headers in the middle, not to many kids in the division that can match her there.

Great games this weekend BTW!

You sure seem to know this team well! Perhaps one of those wides you so freely critic is your own DD?
NOT NICE!

Soccerture, look at this as only an opinion of one person, the eagles are without a doubt the most improved team in the division, again my own opinion. No use getting defensive, it's all good! :)

A quick mid can shut her down no problem, but don't give up a set shot or a corner.

yes i agree and i have seen it happen but like i have said before that is why no one can call a player at this age group dominant.

Real needs to learn how to play without her

that they do but i do not see that happening any time soon.

that they do but i do not see that happening any time soon.
How RSC plays at Surf Cup will give us a clue as to how they play without her.

How RSC plays at Surf Cup will give us a clue as to how they play without her.

well i have seen it in the last surf cup in the summer and i do not see it being any different.

well i have seen it in the last surf cup in the summer and i do not see it being any different.

They do tend to borrow heavily, so who knows what will happen. RSC has been unpredictable and inconsistent for a while now.

They do tend to borrow heavily, so who knows what will happen. RSC has been unpredictable and inconsistent for a while now.
true i continue to respect the capability of RSC but it depends who exactly they are going to borrow. do you have any idea who RSC may borrow from?

[quote=Virge]Don't give her any clean shots from anywhere within 35 yards for that matter and forget about winning any headers in the middle, not to many kids in the division that can match her there.


Virge - what about CRSC #11 I think it would a fair assessment to say she could win a fair share of headers if up against RSC #9 if she played the middle. The shots from 35 yards out I'm not touching #9 is a class all by herself on that.

Just took a look at the 92 ODP Winter Pool List. #18 from the Slammers not on the list you gotta be kidding! #11 from CRSC also not on the list what's the deal? These are two of the most underrated 1992 players. No doubt they aren't the only two - there are others from different teams. What's the scoop on ODP? How are the girls selected for the pool?

That's the way it goes. No doubt they are both good players but may not be what ODP is looking for. Anyone know if either girl has ever made the pool? Did any other 92's from Slammers or CRSC make the list? What about from Arsenal, Slammers, Eagles, Blues or Del Mar?

[quote=Virge]Don't give her any clean shots from anywhere within 35 yards for that matter and forget about winning any headers in the middle, not to many kids in the division that can match her there.


Virge - what about CRSC #11 I think it would a fair assessment to say she could win a fair share of headers if up against RSC #9 if she played the middle. The shots from 35 yards out I'm not touching #9 is a class all by herself on that.

Yup, she's a quality player for sure, #9's height, strength and skill are good but it doesn't mean she's in a class of her own, there are plenty out there.

That's the way it goes. No doubt they are both good players but may not be what ODP is looking for. Anyone know if either girl has ever made the pool? Did any other 92's from Slammers or CRSC make the list? What about from Arsenal, Slammers, Eagles, Blues or Del Mar?

I know that #18 made the 92 Pool last year

That's the way it goes. No doubt they are both good players but may not be what ODP is looking for. Anyone know if either girl has ever made the pool? Did any other 92's from Slammers or CRSC make the list? What about from Arsenal, Slammers, Eagles, Blues or Del Mar?
the only girls on the 92 winter pool are: 2 from SoCal and 2 from Surf ... I don't think any of the others were on the winter pool list.

Congrats. All the players from the 1992 pool list are outstanding players and deserve to be there. Major kudos to the few in the U14 age group with later birthdays that made the list.

the only girls on the 92 winter pool are: 2 from SoCal and 2 from Surf ... I don't think any of the others were on the winter pool list.

I would not sweat this stuff as I think the National Team Coaches are doing a better job at scouting good players. They understand that good players get overlooked.

I think I read that the U15 National team has many players that have never made a state team before. Good for them!

that they do but i do not see that happening any time soon.

Looks like your wrong here. RSC won the Surf Girls bracket easily scoring 7 goals and allowing only 1 during bracket play. #9 did show up on Sat but did not start and only played limited minutes in the blues game.

They seem to have a new energy for sure and like I said earlier look to them being a very hard team to beat in the future.

I would not sweat this stuff as I think the National Team Coaches are doing a better job at scouting good players. They understand that good players get overlooked.

I think I read that the U15 National team has many players that have never made a state team before. Good for them!

That's good to know Virge. Out of curiosity, how do the NT coaches find out about the good players that get overlooked or never make a state team?

They do tend to borrow heavily, so who knows what will happen. RSC has been unpredictable and inconsistent for a while now.

New coach just won Surf Girls with two teams and U16 Premier. As RSC has not been dominant in league and past tournaments the last few seasons they have not been a push over either, and if you want consistency just look at their record at the Surf Cups. No team has even come close to thier winning percentage there. 6 championships of 9 and 8 finals.

Eagles have beaten them once in 5 years and never when it counted, that was clear in their game at Surf when they crushed them 3-0 without #9.

They borrowed two players, one Goalie and a new forward from what I saw which struggled and did not play much at all.

With the new coach I think this team is on the right track again, winning!

They litterly handed Slammers their butts in the final after slammers had just beaten CRSC 4-0.

Sorry I just think your above statement isn't telling the truth but then if they lost in bracket play who know what I would have thought. I just saw them play at Surf and they looked pretty damn good.

That's good to know Virge. Out of curiosity, how do the NT coaches find out about the good players that get overlooked or never make a state team?

I would say primarily from word of mouth, asking coaches and then scouting those players. I make sure my kids does not put to much emphasis in ODP, I tell them to play hard all the time and the effort and work will be noticed.

Looks like your wrong here. RSC won the Surf Girls bracket easily scoring 7 goals and allowing only 1 during bracket play. #9 did show up on Sat but did not start and only played limited minutes in the blues game.

They seem to have a new energy for sure and like I said earlier look to them being a very hard team to beat in the future.

RSC is an amazing team with or without #9. They are a force to be reckoned with and I doubt that will change anytime soon.

RSC, Arsenal and Slammers bring certain energy, enthusiasm and chemistry to their games. The Blues recently got back their groove. The Eagles are maturing and well on their way to getting energized.

I know that #18 made the 92 Pool last year

This kid is an amazing talent, Mark my words when I say she will be recruited huge by some major schools and may even play on a National team some day.

ODP litterly has not done their homework on her yet. We see her all year long and know how good she really is.

RSC is an amazing team with or without #9. They are a force to be reckoned with and I doubt that will change anytime soon.

RSC, Arsenal and Slammers bring certain energy, enthusiasm and chemistry to their games. The Blues recently got back their groove. The Eagles are maturing and well on their way to getting energized.

Absolutely to all those quotes, the future is bright for this division and the games will be fun to watch.

New coach just won Surf Girls with two teams and U16 Premier. As RSC has not been dominant in league and past tournaments the last few seasons they have not been a push over either, and if you want consistency just look at their record at the Surf Cups. No team has even come close to thier winning percentage there. 6 championships of 9 and 8 finals.

Eagles have beaten them once in 5 years and never when it counted, that was clear in their game at Surf when they crushed them 3-0 without #9.

They borrowed two players, one Goalie and a new forward from what I saw which struggled and did not play much at all.

With the new coach I think this team is on the right track again, winning!

They litterly handed Slammers their butts in the final after slammers had just beaten CRSC 4-0.

Sorry I just think your above statement isn't telling the truth but then if they lost in bracket play who know what I would have thought. I just saw them play at Surf and they looked pretty damn good.

Right on Virge.

"They litterly handed Slammers their butts in the final after slammers had just beaten CRSC 4-0."

They looked great at Surf Girls Cup, but "handed Slammers their butts"? I don't think so. They certainly took the game to them, but they only scored one goal, the other was an own goal.

I didn't see all their games, but did make it to the championship game. After all the talk about #9, I didn't expect to see her there. I have only one question:

If #9 is not 'dominant', what comes between 'impactful' and 'dominant'?

If #9 is not 'dominant', what comes between 'impactful' and 'dominant'?

"Very Good, Great Sometimes" or another one would be "would love to have her on our team"

This kid is an amazing talent, Mark my words when I say she will be recruited huge by some major schools and may even play on a National team some day.

ODP litterly has not done their homework on her yet. We see her all year long and know how good she really is.

Virge I agree 100%. #18 is amazing. I've noticed the good players who are humble, completely unselfish, not as aggressive, not as verbal, don't showboat and fail to realize just how good they really are - are less likely to show well when put in the ODP training arena where they are expected to go all out with players they don't know and are given a mere two or three days to show their stuff. These girls may make their age ODP pool but are definitely less likely to make the team. Is it the fault of the ODP program? The girls? Are the girls that make the pool and team selfish showboaters? No, No and No. Different personalities result in different responses and ways of handling situations.

the good players who are humble, completely unselfish, not as aggressive, not as verbal, don't showboat and fail to realize just how good they really are - are less likely to show well when put in the ODP training arena where they are expected to go all out with players they don't know and are given a mere two or three days to show their stuff. These girls may make their age ODP pool but are definitely less likely to make the team.

There is truth to your statement. Players that doesn't hesitate to show what they can do, can quickly adapt to change and new situations have an edge. Because ODP timeframes are short the program doesn't have allow players to extensively train together, get to know each other, etc.

Another issue is ODP goes by birth year. Girls born after August are at a disadvantage because they are playing an age group below those born earlier in the year. However there are and will always be a few kids with later birthdays who are able to make the cut.

There are many girls in the U14 bracket deserving. 6 Del Mar, 1 Camarillo Eagles, 4 Blues, 21 CRSC, 11 CRSC, 17 CRSC, 18 Slammers, 12 Slammers and many more.

All 1992 lists have been shorter than the one 1993 pool list published so far. The 1993 winter list and process will be interesting. Also only one team has been formed for the 1992's each time. The spring 1993's were fortunate to have two teams so more girls were able to be accepted and few were released.

If the problem is so great, shouldn't people cut out the middle guy and speak to the coach about their concerns? Many times the coach is already aware of these players, but seniority or parent pressure keeps the erring players in their spots. When the coach is pressured by more than one parent, then the scale starts to tip in the opposite direction. Ultimately it is the coaches responsibilty to organize his team, and make the proper adjustments. November 27th is fast approaching....... the time is ripe!
These young ladies are just doing what they can, according to their abilities, and whom they are given to play alongside with.

As always you speak the truth Soccerture.

I would say primarily from word of mouth, asking coaches and then scouting those players. I make sure my kids does not put to much emphasis in ODP, I tell them to play hard all the time and the effort and work will be noticed.

Good and practical advice.

"They litterly handed Slammers their butts in the final after slammers had just beaten CRSC 4-0."

They looked great at Surf Girls Cup, but "handed Slammers their butts"? I don't think so. They certainly took the game to them, but they only scored one goal, the other was an own goal.

I didn't see all their games, but did make it to the championship game. After all the talk about #9, I didn't expect to see her there. I have only one question:

If #9 is not 'dominant', what comes between 'impactful' and 'dominant'?


Ok, I agree, no one hands Slammers their butts! they are just to good. But the own goal was due to pressure which never let up in the second half. RSC goalie touched the ball twice, although Slammers did have a great shot that hit the cross bar.

A good game and the better team won on this day.

Ok, I agree, no one hands Slammers their butts! they are just to good. But the own goal was due to pressure which never let up in the second half. RSC goalie touched the ball twice, although Slammers did have a great shot that hit the cross bar.

A good game and the better team won on this day.

When one team wants it more, it shows at U14. Slammers wanted it bad in the semis to vindicate the loss to Cerritos at League Cup. Slammers were on fire. Real So Cal players and their new coach wanted it bad in the finals and it showed. Slammers had beat them 3-1 in league and had been Nov Surf Cup champs for the past two years and in the finals of summer Surf Cup, the past three years. So, Real So Cal was on a mission and it showed. The mental part of the game is huge at this age! I never knew what sports psychologists were for but imagine they get into the head of athletes to bring out their best.

Ok, I agree, no one hands Slammers their butts! they are just to good. But the own goal was due to pressure which never let up in the second half. RSC goalie touched the ball twice, although Slammers did have a great shot that hit the cross bar.

A good game and the better team won on this day.Slammers can be beaten. I know its easier said than done, but if you keep a physical player marking #18 , you'll have a chance at winning them. When I say physical I'm not talking about a thug, but instead someone that can mark her and keep the pressure on. Arsenal seemed to have the answer this year in league. Also the Slammers don't have all weapons they had last year and I still hold to that making a difference.

Looks like your wrong here. RSC won the Surf Girls bracket easily scoring 7 goals and allowing only 1 during bracket play. #9 did show up on Sat but did not start and only played limited minutes in the blues game.

They seem to have a new energy for sure and like I said earlier look to them being a very hard team to beat in the future.

yup i admit when im wrong my bad. RSC is a huge threat to anyone, watch out for them in Nationals.

Slammers can be beaten. I know its easier said than done, but if you keep a physical player marking #18 , you'll have a chance at winning them. When I say physical I'm not talking about a thug, but instead someone that can mark her and keep the pressure on. Arsenal seemed to have the answer this year in league. Also the Slammers don't have all weapons they had last year and I still hold to that making a difference.
Slammers have plenty of weapons left on the team and they have plenty of girls who can score besides 18. I feel because they have been at the top for so long, at times, they let their guard down. I predict it will be a Slammers vs. Arsenal NC, with Arsenal winning 2-1.

Slammers have plenty of weapons left on the team and they have plenty of girls who can score besides 18. I feel because they have been at the top for so long, at times, they let their guard down. I predict it will be a Slammers vs. Arsenal NC, with Arsenal winning 2-1.
it is way to soon to be talking about Nationals results. who knows what happens from here till then.

it is way to soon to be talking about Nationals results. who knows what happens from here till then.

It may be too soon but it's fun to make friendly wagers.

you should put all your markers on #18 cause she really is the only one who can score on that team..she is fabulous

you should put all your markers on #18 cause she really is the only one who can score on that team..she is fabulous



OK, she's good but you are a little over the top with that remark. Look at the names of the kids who scored for Slammers in their 4-0 beating of CRSC. #18 was not among them. Believe me, Slammers didn't get where they are today by having only one kid who can score.

OK, she's good but you are a little over the top with that remark. Look at the names of the kids who scored for Slammers in their 4-0 beating of CRSC. #18 was not among them. Believe me, Slammers didn't get where they are today by having only one kid who can score.

True but she can be counted on to score when it counts. She really turns in on when needed. Most of her best games are in tournament finals and Nationals.

OK, she's good but you are a little over the top with that remark. Look at the names of the kids who scored for Slammers in their 4-0 beating of CRSC. #18 was not among them. Believe me, Slammers didn't get where they are today by having only one kid who can score.
okay, since some of you keep talking about Slammer's #18, here is my two cents -- she is not the only one who scores on that team but because she is a threat she pulls the defenders to her, creating opportunities for others to score. So, no, she is not the only one who can score on Slammers but by having her there, she is a threat, which opens up opportunities for the others girls to have a go at it.

okay, since some of you keep talking about Slammer's #18, here is my two cents -- she is not the only one who scores on that team but because she is a threat she pulls the defenders to her, creating opportunities for others to score. So, no, she is not the only one who can score on Slammers but by having her there, she is a threat, which opens up opportunities for the others girls to have a go at it.


Yes It's Me that right. She's an unselfish team player. If the opportunity presents itself she puts the ball in the net. If it's not happening she creates opportunities for others. As good as she is she never comes off as an individual player. She just takes care of business.

It may be too soon but it's fun to make friendly wagers.

wagers on u-14 girls soccer eeeessshh!!! sounds like someone has a problem with gambling. im just messin, yeah i still think its way to soon because i know many changes will happen from now until then.

When one team wants it more, it shows at U14. Slammers wanted it bad in the semis to vindicate the loss to Cerritos at League Cup. Slammers were on fire. Real So Cal players and their new coach wanted it bad in the finals and it showed. Slammers had beat them 3-1 in league and had been Nov Surf Cup champs for the past two years and in the finals of summer Surf Cup, the past three years. So, Real So Cal was on a mission and it showed. The mental part of the game is huge at this age! I never knew what sports psychologists were for but imagine they get into the head of athletes to bring out their best.

RSC new goal keeper form SAS Kickers played Surf Cup.

RSC new goal keeper form SAS Kickers played Surf Cup.

She is an okay keeper, but the coach as another keeper in mind.

She is an okay keeper, but the coach as another keeper in mind.
what was wrong with the keeper they had all season?

what was wrong with the keeper they had all season?
i think there current keepers seriously has great size and moblility for a keeper. she does need better keeper training but heck that is why she plays gold right.

i think there current keepers seriously has great size and moblility for a keeper. she does need better keeper training but heck that is why she plays gold right.
I think we will see many of the 2007 GU15 gold teams with two keepers. The injury factor increases as these girls get older, bigger and faster.

Is the keeper RSC is using from the SAS silver team? Also, is it true that Blazer (SCU) players guested with them at Surf?

Is the keeper RSC is using from the SAS silver team? Also, is it true that Blazer (SCU) players guested with them at Surf?
Yes to the SAS keeper. Not sure about SCU guests.

Is the keeper RSC is using from the SAS silver team? Also, is it true that Blazer (SCU) players guested with them at Surf?

Another thread mentioned that SCU was missing a player (forward), maybe she went with RSF to Surf instead of her own team to Harvest. Could be a tough choice for some.

I think we will see many of the 2007 GU15 gold teams with two keepers. The injury factor increases as these girls get older, bigger and faster.
yeah it is always best to have that luxury. i believe Arsenal has had that luxury for a while now.

yeah it is always best to have that luxury. i believe Arsenal has had that luxury for a while now.

Also, when players share a position (field players or goalies) it ups the competitive cauldron to play your best all the time to keep your spot. Many of the best teams in all the age groups have 2 great players who share the same position on the team (field positions and goalie).

Also, when players share a position (field players or goalies) it ups the competitive cauldron to play your best all the time to keep your spot. Many of the best teams in all the age groups have 2 great players who share the same position on the team (field positions and goalie).
yeah that is very true i noticed that with the top teams without a doubt. the depth does not just help with the health issues but as well as the competitve nature to keep your spot.