#1 Lippens team splinters and Martin moves to FC Irvine to head coach FC Irvine GU16 team that went to League Cup Sweet 16, Lippens is looking for a few athletic girls to complete team www.fcirvine.com (http://www.fcirvine.com)

#2 Glendora gets smashed in Nationals by Boback and the Blues

#3 Boback locks like a lock to win 2008 National Cup

#4 Force one of the few teams with female head coach

#5 Eclipse, getting around 7-10 Lippens/Blues girls. Will Eclipse field 2 or 3 GU16 going GU17 teams next year.

#6 Real So Cal Blue and #7 Real So Cal, wonder if they have the same issues as some of the other clubs with A and B teams

#8 Slammers, known to have the most athletic team in Premier flight.

#9 ISC Strikers, DOC DE takes over the team and team struggles, going from perrenial top 4 to bottom 4, suposedly personality conflicts is the reason but you have to wonder if Ebert has lost his touch or probably he is stronger for boys teams.

#10 Tustin United Red, seems to have just enough horses to stay in Premier, but not by much.

#11 United seems to be having a hard time getting 7 returning players. Seems likely to be relegated back to Gold.

#12 SWSC has already blown up.

If you know anything more on or better detail, keep the thread running.suckr

#1 Lippens team splinters and Martin moves to FC Irvine to head coach FC Irvine GU16 team that went to League Cup Sweet 16, Lippens is looking for a few athletic girls to complete team www.fcirvine.com (http://www.fcirvine.com)

#2 Glendora gets smashed in Nationals by Boback and the Blues

#3 Boback locks like a lock to win 2008 National Cup

#4 Force one of the few teams with female head coach

#5 Eclipse, getting around 7-10 Lippens/Blues girls. Will Eclipse field 2 or 3 GU16 going GU17 teams next year.

#6 Real So Cal Blue and #7 Real So Cal, wonder if they have the same issues as some of the other clubs with A and B teams

#8 Slammers, known to have the most athletic team in Premier flight.

#9 ISC Strikers, DOC DE takes over the team and team struggles, going from perrenial top 4 to bottom 4, suposedly personality conflicts is the reason but you have to wonder if Ebert has lost his touch or probably he is stronger for boys teams.

#10 Tustin United Red, seems to have just enough horses to stay in Premier, but not by much.

#11 United seems to be having a hard time getting 7 returning players. Seems likely to be relegated back to Gold.

#12 SWSC has already blown up.

If you know anything more on or better detail, keep the thread running.suckr

#1/#5: Which one is the Blues B going to? Is ML coaching one team, but the majority of the girls are going to Eclipse?

#2: I don't see how Blues beating Glendora is a "shake up" in the U16 bracket. Yes, the Blues won, but haven't they beaten everyone? (In FWRL, RSC, Eclipse, and Surf lost by way more than Glendora did this past weekend).

#3: They have won FWRL and are in the semis, so yes, they could win it unless there is an upset.

#4: Why does the gender of the coach matter? It really just depends on ho they coach and the success of the team, not the gender of the coach, so I don't see why it is important enough to bring up. (Good for her)

#6: I haven't heard any problems with RSC or RSC B lately, so things are most likely running smoothly

#8: We can't know for sure if they are the most athletic enough. I saw one of their national cup games and some of the girls are great players, but I just don't think they work together as a team and unit as well as other teams do.

#9: Could it just be that the performance and ability of the team hasn't been as good as past years? It is not always the coach.

#10: If they stay in premier, I agree that they will struggle.

#11: Premier standing will relegate them

#12: Somehow saw that coming.

I don't really understand how all of this is a "shake up." It is really just the current news for each team/ our opinions on performances in the future. The only real "shake up" is the Blues B split. We'll just have to wait until after season to see what happens (that is when a lot of the drama happens).

GU16 Force moving to the SD Surf Club. They will play out of LA and will not participate in Premier league; will play showcase tournaments and FWRL instead. This opens up a spot of one of the relegated teams to remain in Premier.

This is a joke right?? Why would they leave the toughest league in perhaps the nation, to be what I guess you can say would be an independent. Their kids and parents bought into this idea??? Sorry Seaview, I hate to dispute your post, and you probably know first hand, but to me, this is as shocking as the Blues breakup. I really have a hard time thinking that the entire team is thinking this is a good path to take.

#2: I don't see how Blues beating Glendora is a "shake up" in the U16 bracket. Yes, the Blues won, but haven't they beaten everyone? (In FWRL, RSC, Eclipse, and Surf lost by way more than Glendora did this past weekend).
OK, if you say so. Surf and RSC lost to the Blues 4-0, while Glendora lost 4-1. I guess that 1 goal means they did way better in your mind. Surf, RSC and Glendora all got their a$$ kicked.....a 3 goal loss is no better than a 4 goal loss. wacko

OK, if you say so. Surf and RSC lost to the Blues 4-0, while Glendora lost 4-1. I guess that 1 goal means they did way better in your mind. Surf, RSC and Glendora all got their a$$ kicked.....a 3 goal loss is no better than a 4 goal loss. wacko

I was just emphasizing the point that Blues winning against some of the top teams is nothing new. You're right, a 3 or 4 goal loss is still a big loss. I'm not disagreeing with you, but rather questioning the original poster of the thread why Blues beating Glendora is a "shake up" (I'm not defending Glendora in any way, so no need to get angry).

GU16 Force moving to the SD Surf Club. They will play out of LA and will not participate in Premier league; will play showcase tournaments and FWRL instead. This opens up a spot of one of the relegated teams to remain in Premier.
That would be a wrong move, dosen't make much since. Presidio is just not as competitve overall.

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That would be a wrong move, dosen't make much since. Presidio is just not as competitve overall.

ts

I doubt it is happening. I wouldn't think that the parents would want to drive all the way down to San Diego to play (raising gas prices!). Coast's premier league consists of some of the best teams in the nation and is one of the most competetive leagues. The only team in Presidio is Surf (I believe though that the club itself is a bit over rated).
This team has been so successful- wouldn't want to see it implode like Lippen's Blues B.

I doubt it is happening. I wouldn't think that the parents would want to drive all the way down to San Diego to play (raising gas prices!). Coast's premier league consists of some of the best teams in the nation and is one of the most competetive leagues. The only team in Presidio is Surf (I believe though that the club itself is a bit over rated).
This team has been so successful- wouldn't want to see it implode like Lippen's Blues B.

Yes! I beleive they are one of the exceptions in the Premier bracket GU 16's unlike the GU15's this year. Didn't they move from SEN and finish in the top 5 in Premier?
That is rare. I agree with you soccerfan4ever about them leaving. They would implode by the end of the year. They should stay put and build on this team. Still don't beleive the whole move thing.

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I doubt it is happening. I wouldn't think that the parents would want to drive all the way down to San Diego to play (raising gas prices!). Coast's premier league consists of some of the best teams in the nation and is one of the most competetive leagues. The only team in Presidio is Surf (I believe though that the club itself is a bit over rated).
This team has been so successful- wouldn't want to see it implode like Lippen's Blues B.

From the infomation I was able to gather, the coach got mad at the club for whatever reason and has invited 1/2 of the team to join her under Surf. The other 1/2 left to fend for themselves. GU16 Force is done!!!

From the infomation I was able to gather, the coach got mad at the club for whatever reason and has invited 1/2 of the team to join her under Surf. The other 1/2 left to fend for themselves. GU16 Force is done!!!

Wow! Hate when that stuff happens. It ruins it for everyone. This is a good team. Too bad if it is true. Good luck to the players.

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From the infomation I was able to gather, the coach got mad at the club for whatever reason and has invited 1/2 of the team to join her under Surf. The other 1/2 left to fend for themselves. GU16 Force is done!!!

Did she invite half the team (a new technique for making cuts?), or did just half the team accept the invitation?

Did she invite half the team (a new technique for making cuts?), or did just half the team accept the invitation?

Good question Espola!! I can't see how the coach could be unhappy with 1/2 of her team after the year that they have had. My memory is fading in my old age, but I think they played Lippens Blues team in the last Premier game with a chance to win the bracket. It will be interesting to hear how this all plays out. Any Force people out there who want to fill us in?? Seaview??

Good question Espola!! I can't see how the coach could be unhappy with 1/2 of her team after the year that they have had. My memory is fading in my old age, but I think they played Lippens Blues team in the last Premier game with a chance to win the bracket. It will be interesting to hear how this all plays out. Any Force people out there who want to fill us in?? Seaview??

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Is this stuff actually true? Did someone confirm it with members of the team? If its true, it is one of the reason club soccer is so completely screwed up. Two perfectly good, highly competitive teams (Force and Blues Lippen) go right down the toilet for quetionable and selfish reasons. I could see the teams going up in smoke if the teams were lousy and had poor seasons, however, that was not the case with either of these teams. I just don't get it.

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Is this stuff actually true? Did someone confirm it with members of the team? If its true, it is one of the reason club soccer is so completely screwed up. Two perfectly good, highly competitive teams (Force and Blues Lippen) go right down the toilet for quetionable and selfish reasons. I could see the teams going up in smoke if the teams were lousy and had poor seasons, however, that was not the case with either of these teams. I just don't get it.

What I have seen happen in the past: team has a good year; coach makes demands (such as more money, choice of practice time, better team assignment, etc); DOC or Board says no; coach walks to better offer. The players and parents then have to decide if they are playing for the club or for the coach.

Blues lippen is a done deal. But, Force? Have not heard one peep about this. Sure, you got the right force team?

The only thing I heard a few weeks ago is that the Force GK was not going to play club soccer her senior year. Whether her decision not to play was based on the move to Presidio, I am not sure. Didn't the backup GK for Force also go to Eclipse in the middle of the year last year?

The Force team is not going to play league, Premier or Presidio. They are going to a few select showcase tournaments (Raleigh, Surf, Disney, Texas) and will play the fall and spring FWRL. That's plenty of soccer and exposure for the players. The coach knows what she is doing. Quality over Quantity.

What? Why? Is Surf approving of this?

The Force team is not going to play league, Premier or Presidio. They are going to a few select showcase tournaments (Raleigh, Surf, Disney, Texas) and will play the fall and spring FWRL. That's plenty of soccer and exposure for the players. The coach knows what she is doing. Quality over Quantity.

Hey Seaview,
Thanks for the into and I wish you much luck in this endeavor. I do disagree with you on one point. You mentioned quality over quantity. I can't see how you can get better quality than CSL premier. But as you said the coach knows. But I must ask, is it true that I heard only 1/2 of the team was invited and the other 1/2 left to find other teams?? I really think you are going to have a hard time filling your roster with quality players without playing in a league. Just my humble opinion.

The Force team is not going to play league, Premier or Presidio. They are going to a few select showcase tournaments (Raleigh, Surf, Disney, Texas) and will play the fall and spring FWRL. That's plenty of soccer and exposure for the players. The coach knows what she is doing. Quality over Quantity.

Doesn't quality come from quantity? What I mean is that the more games you play, the better the team and its players get. They become more experienced. Playing games regularly helps the players development, not only showcases here-and-there. If they want college exposure, playing in CSL Premier with the top teams (REGULARLY) will help prepare the girls for the college level and will keep them on top of their game when college showcases do come around. So, in short, quantity leads to quality and these girls need to play in league to get better and better. Also, coaches are interested in teams they know participate in premier. There is more of a chance that a coach will scout them if they are apart of a prestigious league. Why throw that all away? That team has so many oppurtunities for success if they stay. I don't understand why then they would leave.

I wonder if the supposed merger between Force Soccer Club and South Bay Soccer Club had anything to do with it?

From the infomation I was able to gather, the coach got mad at the club for whatever reason and has invited 1/2 of the team to join her under Surf. The other 1/2 left to fend for themselves. GU16 Force is done!!!

This is one of the crazy things that happen when people put to much faith in any coach. She was opposed to the merger of South bay and Force clubs and she took the team and left when the merger was approved. She was handed this team last year and now she is leading them down this crazy path. The team could have done the same thing and stayed with the Force but the coach would not coach at the combined club. She convinced the parents that playing under the Surf banner it would give the girls a better opportunity to be seen by college coaches and play in college. I do not think this will work out in the long run for the girls. After the season they just had they should have just built on what they started. This experiment is going to cost the families a lot of money to feed one persons ego. I just hope that these families get something out of it in the end.

Premier for 08-09
SB Force
Blues-Bobak
ISC
Eclipse
Slammers
Slammers-Nor
GFC-Legends
RSC Blue
RSC
Tustin
Valley U
Eclipse-Blues

The Force team is not going to play league, Premier or Presidio. They are going to a few select showcase tournaments (Raleigh, Surf, Disney, Texas) and will play the fall and spring FWRL. That's plenty of soccer and exposure for the players. The coach knows what she is doing. Quality over Quantity.


I thought there was a rule that teams had to play in the local league to participate in FWRL.. is that not correct?

I thought there was a rule that teams had to play in the local league to participate in FWRL.. is that not correct?I haven't seen that requirement in the Far West Regional League's Rules, however teams must have their applications to the FWRL approved in writing by their State Association (Cal South).